Treasure Island

Miroslava Odalovic

(Montenegro)

Required Field


how on earth do you expect me
to fulfill your required field
you want the poems to be about
friends
dreams
family

but what if i want to write
about the hand...

what if i want to write about
required fields...

you want me to put
all my thoughts
in your little slots

but

you cannot put the worlds
within the boundaries
of your limited perceptions

you
categorization freaks!

Submitted: Thursday, March 06, 2014
Edited: Thursday, March 06, 2014

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Poet's Notes about The Poem

This poem is inspired by the recent poemhunter procedure by which the poets need to categorize their poetry put their poems into a limited number of the fields required and proposed by the site administrators. My opinion is that such limitations are not and will never be in sympathy with anybody's serious writing, which is damage done to the poetry itself, which in turn makes the purpose of the site even more absurd.

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  • Smoky Hoss (5/13/2014 8:03:00 PM)

    Very well stated. Thank you for expressing this point. Freedom of expression is always beyond the walls! (Report) Reply

  • Patti Masterman (3/10/2014 11:27:00 PM)

    This sure struck a nerve. I was surprised to find all the new stuff when I tried to post. It took multiple attempts, it's true. I did enjoy the simpler old posting format. This one is time consuming. Makes me wonder if it is some backwards way of discouraging the poem-bombers who come and post four hundred poems in a row. (and all or most of it meaningless fertilizer if you get my drift; -)
    It seems poemhunter site has gone from being to lax to being too anal..surely there is a place to be moderate in between two extremes..great poem by the way. You are one of the best writers here, just hope that you understand that. (Report) Reply

  • Daniel Y. (3/8/2014 9:01:00 PM)

    Superlike this poem. Has a pertinent message. I don't even use the categories on this site. Most of the poems you search for aren't that great and just have repetition, and redundancy, and rants. It gets kind of sad how many crappy poems there are about God or heaven, or cats. Crappy, sappy love poems that don't even use metaphors and have rhymes without progress. But your message is accurate. Poetry defies definition.

    You certainly have both poetic and technical skill. As far as I'm concerned this makes you a perfect candidate to help criticize my poems. I am always looking to improve.

    This is similar to my poem Censorship. Please check it out and a few others and let me know what you think. (Report) Reply

  • Patricia Grantham (3/8/2014 7:46:00 AM)

    We must submit to changes in one way or the other. Life brings on new
    changes each and every day. Apparently PH found it important to add
    this new required field. We may not see the benefits now but we may see
    it in the months ahead. It may prove to be very beneficial to all of us. (Report) Reply

  • Bri Edwards (3/7/2014 1:26:00 PM)

    New 'Required' Poem-submission 'Field': My Opinion(s) And Suggestions..... [Topic 'field' requirement; my thoughts]

    PH members may object to.....
    the new poem “Topic” field;
    until it has been satisfied,
    a poet may not, a poem, to us yield.
    It did surprise me when I saw it,
    and I’ve only seen it once,
    but I feel there is a good reason for it;
    I don’t think PH is a (total) dunce.

    I already categorize my poems.....
    (somewhat) , ......following each title.
    Now it may seem to some PH poets.....
    that they’ve been fixed with a bridle.
    PH has allowed some rules to be.....
    ignored, and poets don’t suffer for it.
    For THIS rule we may have to be more.....
    flexible or CUNNING.....as we CAN’T ignore it.

    I’m sure some poets and readers....
    will like what this new rule does bring.
    Some may enjoy the benefits so much....
    that praises for it they soon will sing.
    It’s too early for me to tell......
    if this new rule will impede me at all.
    I don’t think in order to fill the “field”.....
    I’ll have to bang my head against a wall.

    [[ I find the poems I read on PH....
    in various ways indeed,
    and rarely have those ways included.....
    using PH’s topic list of subjects such as “snake”, “love”, or “greed”.
    Until one is familiar with various poets.....
    and what sorts of poems they write.....
    you may go fishing at ‘who’s online’;
    there you may find poems in which you delight.
    OR, if you can, you can stay “online”.....
    for countless hours a day and see who “fishes” you.
    You don’t have to be awake while online,
    and through comments received you may find a few.....
    other poets who like your stuff,
    and in return you may like theirs.
    You may find some which make you laugh or cry,
    or scary ones which curl all your hairs! ]]

    DO complain, if you really “must”;
    in PH you don’t have to always trust.
    But it’s a useful FREE site, and.....
    what it feeds ME beats water and crusts.

    I’ve sent a note to PH.....
    giving my concerns about this field.
    Why don’t all concerned poets do the same.....
    and see if, collectively, some power we wield? ?

    (March 6 + 7,2014)

    dear readers (and those not-so-dear) ,

    there is a lengthy poet's note about my poem on its page. :) bri (Report) Reply

  • Neela Nath (3/7/2014 7:43:00 AM)

    Yes.My poem was also being rejected.But I didn't loose hope.Constantly I tried.at last I succeeded.Thanks for sharing. (Report) Reply

  • Pradip Chattopadhyay (3/7/2014 1:46:00 AM)

    I agree Miroslava, this delimiting paraphernalia was unnecessary. Let's not do anything that constricts and confine the boundary-less human expressions called poetry. (Report) Reply

  • Valsa George (3/6/2014 11:57:00 PM)

    Today when I was about to post my poem For an Interim, strange enough I found it rejected on account of my failure to categorize my poem into the given limited areas! I attempted two three options and finally succeeded! What you have tried to establish in your poem is so very sensible! ........ How can we strangle a poet's soaring imagination and circumscribe his vast horizon into a small space? Great write... so appropriate and timely! ! (Report) Reply

  • Jasbir Chatterjee (3/6/2014 11:28:00 PM)

    this poem is good and you have a right to express your opinion..But I personally feel very grateful to PH for all the knowledge, love and admiration that I have received by being a member. I keep adding poems to my collection and I have never felt handicapped in any way... (Report) Reply

  • Bri Edwards (3/6/2014 8:02:00 PM)

    why do you say more absurd? did you already think the site to be absurd? ? granted i sometimes have a bone to pick with the site, but basically i LOVE the site and would be sad (a little bit at least) to see its 'demise'.

    i have only had to fill the new required slot once, so i am not very familiar with the topic. it will be VERY DISAPPOINTING if i find myself restricted. i have, for most of my time on PH, put after the title of each of my poems [ in brackets], some clues as to the poem's content and sometimes its length.

    we shall each see how this new development by PH impacts us. of course anyone who wishes can find another FREE site in which to share poetry, comments and messages. let me know if you find a better one; i've only tried one other and was not impressed with it. thanks very much for submitting this poem. it is a very worthwhile topic to discuss.........especially if one has nothing better to do (that comment is only supposed to be partly in fun) . thanks for sharing.

    in this line: you cannot put the worlds ...............did you mean worlds, world, or words? ? ? ? :) bri

    thanks for sharing. i'll send to MyPoemList.

    i can imagine that some poets and some readers will enjoy this new feature. (Report) Reply

  • Roseann Shawiak (3/6/2014 5:32:00 PM)

    I totally applaud you, love this poem and wholeheartedly agree with you. As the messages I sent to PH after they did this stated,
    I am totally against categories and your need to limit artistic horizons. If people don't read my poems because they're not in a
    specified category, so be it, although I can't see that happening in my lifetime. I think so outside the box, the only category I'd fit
    in would be the Unspecified Category.

    How can you categorize auras, dreams, knowings, feelings, invisible rhythms, innate knowledge, musical interludes, formulas,
    etc. Categories add nothing to poetry, they actually diminish it. Just because mundane things like menus, wines, lists, etc. are
    categorized, doesn't make it right for creative and artistic original poetry that comes alive in our minds, intellect and imagination.
    There's just no comparison there. Categories are for narrow-minded people without imagination, trying to impose their views on
    truly creative personalities.

    This is also, not just simply getting used to a change in format, it entails the world of poetry, which can't be categorized in all of
    it's styles and types. The only word I'd be able to put in for Topic would simply be the word Poetry. It's just a waste of time,
    energy and space, even if it's optional, I wouldn't do it. (Report) Reply

  • Sandra Feldman (3/6/2014 4:34:00 PM)

    It's hard or almost impossible to categorize Imagination, Feelings, in one word, Poetry. Everything in our lives today seems to be fitted into little anonymous boxes. Poetry is so totally individualistic, and personal. and many times undefinable, more Feeling than a Thing. I for one am 100% in agreement with Miroslava, not only because She writes well or has a beautiful name but because I think what she expresses in this poem is correct..And very clearly expressed
    For example
    .Topic here would she write? I am not in accord with filling out a box where I don't know what to write? (Report) Reply

  • Katelin Taylor (3/6/2014 3:00:00 PM)

    I like the poem! It flows well and there is humor at the end. I think this is a great argument although I like the idea of categorization. I don't like that it's required though. (Report) Reply

  • Lorraine Colon (3/6/2014 2:12:00 PM)

    I absolutely agree with Thomas Vaughan Jones. We should be able to choose the subjects we want to read about. Think of it as going to a restaurant and looking at a menu - everything is categorized - appetizers, entrees, desserts, etc. - because it makes it simple to find what you are looking for. Why should it be any different with our poetry? (Report) Reply

  • Sallam Yassin (3/6/2014 1:43:00 PM)

    in the big meaning - yes No cage
    as in art the meaning is to fulfill the drift in feeling- not forms of art
    yes let we write in own fields for us
    for others let think words stolen from their heart/ i think that is a complication- extra for the poet (Report) Reply

  • Thomas Vaughan Jones (3/6/2014 1:05:00 PM)

    Me thinks a compromise is required here. There are so many postings per day that it is neccessary to allow readers the opportunity to follow their preferences. Some of us appreciate Free Verse. Some prefer Blank Verse. Some prefer Formal Poetry. Some of us don't know the difference in any of these formats.
    That being so, why should we be required to sift through endless diatribe to find our daily poetry fix.
    For instance, I absolutely loathe personal angst, with people cutting or similar abuse. Especially when it is written in cold blooded prose. So perhaps the categories should be subjective rather than objective.
    Having said that, I like this outpouring of a grievance is a feisty feminine way. (Report) Reply

  • Lorraine Colon (3/6/2014 12:58:00 PM)

    I wouldn't get too upset over their request. This is to make their job easier of putting each poem into a specific category. If you will check the Home Page, there is a wide list of fields from which to choose. I'm sure you will be able to find a field for your poems to fall into. I know how you feel, though. We get used to a format, and then feel uncomfortable when it changes. But we'll get used to the new format - just give it a little time. (Report) Reply

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