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Lamont Palmer Male, 52, United States (10/25/2013 8:54:00 PM)

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Poets have battled since Shakespeare's time, and on. Keats called Wordsworth 'banal', WCW hated Hart Crane, Frost dismissed Eliot, Stevens called WCW's work 'anti-poetry. Once Frost started a small fire in the back of an auditorium on fire, driving out the audience, because MacLeish was reading his work, and Frost hated him that much. Wherever poets congregate, expressing opinions, the acrimony will rear its head; frankly, every poet is an advocate for his own style, which makes all criticism a little sispect. -LP

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  • Sherrie Kolb Cassel (10/26/2013 3:14:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    I concur, Lamont, about the artists you have listed. They were intelligent writers defending their work, touting their expertise, ad infinitum...the operative word being" intelligent" , and I would add another word, eloquent, even in their passionate anger. Sadly, the pseudo-debates that take place at " Poem" hunter are neither intelligent, nor eloquent, neither from the men of letters, nor the less learned. Impassioned embroilment is delightful to see, read, hear, and in which to involve oneself when both intelligence and eloquence fuel it. With the " poets" who frequent " Poem" hunter, such intelligence and eloquence are not likely to present themselves, and what the " arguments" end up being are comically tragic. Insert pouty face here.

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  • Lamont Palmer (10/26/2013 12:07:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Of course its easier to fight for your poetry, if you have actual poetry to fight for. Just saying. (smile) -LP

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    • Jefferson Carter (10/26/2013 11:05:00 AM) Post reply

      And it is easier to fight for your poetry if you don't use the word " poetry" as a sacred cow. Poetry is poetry; whether it's good or bad is the question. And insisting on one kind of musi ... more

  • Jefferson Carter (10/25/2013 11:46:00 PM) Post reply

    Lamont's right. Artists who take their art seriously fight to the death. Those who see art as harmless self-expression, the wannabe poets on this site, praise each other. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! !

  • Frank James Ryan Jr...fjr (10/25/2013 11:33:00 PM) Post reply

    Dominis Vos Biskum, Mr. Palmer...Amen

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