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  • Ricardo Thripp (7/26/2014 10:12:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Why is it strange to denounce Maya Angelou for supporting CONVICTED child murderer Winnie Mandela?Why is strange to denounce actress Maya for praising terrorist Nelson Mandela?

    1981 - 2 car bombs at Durban showrooms
    1983 - Church Street Bomb (killed 19, wounded 217)
    1984 - Durban car bomb (killed 5, wounded 27)
    1985-1987 - At least 150 landmines on farm roads (killed 125)
    1985 - Amanzimtoti Sanlam shopping centre bomb Dec 23 (killed 2 white women and 3 white children)
    1986 - Magoo's Bar bomb (killed 3, wounded 69)
    1986 - Newcastle Court bomb (wounded 24)
    1987 - Johannesburg Court bomb (killed 3, wounded 10)
    1987 - Wits command centre car bomb (killed 1, wounded 68)
    1988 - Johannesburg video arcade (killed 1 unborn baby, wounded 10)
    1988 - Roodepoort bank bomb (killed 4, wounded 18)
    1988 - Pretoria Police housing unit,2 bombs (wounded 3)
    1988 - Magistrate's Court bomb (killed 3)
    1988 - Benoni Wimpy Bar bomb (killed 1, wounded 56)
    1988 - Witbank shopping centre bomb (killed 2, wounded 42)
    1988 - Ellis Park Rugby Stadium car bomb (killed 2, wounded 37)
    Late 1980s - numerous Wimpy Restaurant bombs (killed many, wounded many)

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    • Ricardo Thripp (7/27/2014 8:52:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      Shall we descend into the inequity of Denver airport's masonic pit? Yes, especially with heavy colons full of ill-crises-management shit The time to smoke cigarettes is now before tobacco prices inc ... more

  • Jefferson Carter (7/26/2014 9:07:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    So, Amberly Jane, a brand new troll, just emailed me about Adam Snow: " Why would you make fun of someone who is so much less fortunate than yourself?Adam is a young man who has had learning difficulties his entire life, and is diagnosed with Asperger's, lost his father and is burdened with religion - and you - with your intelligence, talent and good fortune continue to poke at him. You must be very bored, or perhaps you lack empathy?"

    If this person is genuine and if what she says about Adam is true, all I can say is Adam is NOT his poetry. I hope his life improves. I REALLY hope he'd take advice from his betters and improve his poetry. Until then, I'll make fun of his verse, but not his issues.

    Adam, did you write this? Not Lamont, I can't believe Lamont has morphed again. Even he has limits to being silly.

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    • Adam M. Snow (7/26/2014 10:47:00 PM) Post reply

      I did not email you. But most of what she said is true about my life, except about my religion. My religion is not my burden, it's a blessing. I don't know if you remember this, a while back ago, I po ... more

  • Jefferson Carter (7/26/2014 3:46:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    Prof. Plum, sometimes you drive me to the brink of drink! ! Just because we're on your list doesn't make us competent poets! For Jezus' sake, you had me tied with Lamont, after all!

    Snow's talent is not burgeoning. He may be trying to put his feelings down on paper the best way he knows how (that's a depressing definition of poetry if I've ever heard one!) , but he is not developing what talent he may have. He doesn't read enough (or any?) contemporary poetry, he doesn't take lit. classes or participate in a workshop, he doesn't accept advice from other writers, he doesn't study poetics. He just keeps writing poor poems again and again. One can't improve that way. The sonnet you praise is larded with sentimentality, distorted with weird syntax, at odds with the meter it tries to employ; in short, it sucks. BUT I'd encourage Adam if he'd have the humility and good sense to admit he needs help if he's ever going to write a good poem. Is that too much to ask?

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    • Professor Plum (7/26/2014 9:23:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I enjoy reading both of you guys. The two of you are excellent wordsmiths. You both have poems that I've read over 20 times each. I see something new every time I reread them.

    • Alexander Rizzo (7/26/2014 8:58:00 PM) Post reply

      your right about snows sonnet. he should keep away from them

    • Lamont Palmer (7/26/2014 7:30:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Frankly, Plum should've had me ahead of you, like on one other previous list. But with your puerile penchant for screaming, shouting and pounding the table, I give him credit for having the courage to ... more

  • Jefferson Carter (7/26/2014 1:17:00 PM) Post reply

    Poemhumpers, please, please, please, read below the wonderful attempt at a sonnet by Adam Snow (Lamont Palmer) . It's a wonder of strangely warped syntax, goofy rhymes, and sappy emotion! My favorite line, which Snow-Palmer amazingly rhymes with " free, " is " the children's laughter flows in joyful spree." What genius! What spree!

  • Jefferson Carter (7/26/2014 10:28:00 AM) Post reply

    Which poem might this be, Erica?You wanna give us a hint?

  • Erica Maples (7/26/2014 10:16:00 AM) Post reply

    i loved that poem, it's so good where did you learn how to write like that?

  • Jack Growden (7/26/2014 3:06:00 AM) Post reply


  • Mike Acker (7/26/2014 3:02:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply


    When the lofty creatures would descend,
    in all their splendor, I used to load up
    my needs and thoughts, then stack, and shift
    around what should never be taken along.

    Now, I just grab what I can of their
    indigo feathers, and hold on for dear life.
    I simply soar on the backs of these mag-
    nificent birds and let the rest of what

    must be made, be made.

    Mike Acker

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  • Professor Plum (7/25/2014 8:38:00 PM) Post reply | Read 6 replies

    Well, I was going to tell Adam he wrote a pretty good sonnet, but now it's gone. Very rhythmic. Oh well. The last four lines needed work, but other than that not too bad.

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