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  • Andy Konisberg (5/8/2005 7:22:00 PM) Post reply Stage

    Ian Curtis wasn't the best live performer and I prefer The Fall but Joy Division did some interesting work.

  • Poetry Hound (5/8/2005 8:41:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    The Morrison poem I USED to like was (and I'm doing this from memory) :

    Nothing.
    The air outside burns my eyes.
    I'll pull them out and
    get rid of the burning.

  • Michael Shepherd (5/8/2005 7:50:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    Anthony and all - I've attempted a very quick demonstration of the way a poet might approach the content of the Morrison poem.. it's up as 'Man Raking Leaves'. Of course a poem set to music, however sparsely expressed, is still magic, so it's no comp - though I can envisage it as shooting script for the opening of one of those exquisite Japanese films with their fabulous plink-pause-twang soundtracks...

  • Poetry Hound (5/8/2005 7:45:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    Jim Morrison wrote good solid rock lyrics and had a huge amount charisma that keeps on giving (judging by the continuing parade of worshipers to his grave at Pere Lachaise) . But his poetry is pretty ordinary. Not terrible. Just not very good. It really needs to be accompanied by Doors tunes.

  • Michael Shepherd (5/8/2005 5:53:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    And to add to Adam - I'd never written anything but sonnets until I met this site and its practitioners, for which I'm enormously grateful.

  • Allan James Saywell (5/8/2005 5:05:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    everybody i am not soto, never have been never will be, i am far to busy
    writing poetry, i am just myself

  • Allan James Saywell (5/8/2005 3:07:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    message to geriatric, jerry stay out of my work, do not comment and i will stay out of yours if you could call it poetry, you thought you could push me around
    but heh buddy i kick and i kick, keep your war to yourself the war is over
    time to move on, time to write poetry, not about war

  • Andy Konisberg (5/7/2005 2:06:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

    It would be interesting to get views on this piece by Bukowski:


    'question and answer'


    he sat naked and drunk in a room of summer
    night, running the blade of the knife
    under his fingernails, smiling, thinking
    of all the letters he had received
    telling him that
    the way he lived and wrote about
    that-
    it had kept them going when
    all seemed
    truly
    hopeless.

    putting the blade on the table, he
    flicked it with a finger
    and it whirled
    in a flashing circle
    under the light.

    who the hell is going to save
    me? he
    thought.

    as the knife stopped spinning
    the answer came:
    you're going to have to
    save yourself.

    still smiling,
    a: he lit a
    cigarette
    b: he poured
    another
    drink
    c: gave the blade
    another
    spin.

    -from The Last Night of the Earth Poems

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    • Poetry Hound (5/8/2005 6:24:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      I kind of like this one. The blade represents danger and possibly suicide, but he is spinning it to supposedly find answers. It's not terribly witty but the end made me smile a little. At least it's n ... more

  • Poetry Hound (5/7/2005 9:46:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    Now I just want to say that I read the “Cows In Art Class” poem that Adam Reynolds recommended (too long to post here) . To me, it’s like much of Buk’s poems – stream-of-consciousness candy, easy to read but nothing very insightful, outrageous for the sake of being outrageous, sort of fun to read in the way that bathroom graffiti is sort of fun to read.

  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (5/7/2005 9:26:00 AM) Post reply Stage

    I publicly challenge Mark Fry to post any and all comments I have EVER posted on this or any other website.
    Are you afraid?
    Yes there is the possibility of a jail sentence, not just a fine.
    Do not worry, we will finish you.
    Best wishes until then
    H

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