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  • Janine Mullens (4/28/2005 3:27:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Revisiting the forum today. It seems hard to believe the immaturity in this place.
    I was surprised to see Herbert Nehrlich appear again and I would strongly advise him to stay off the forum.
    So, Mr. Baxter and myself are really not who we say we are. Hilarious? No.
    It is clear to me that the clever comment by Mr. Fry and Poetryhound amounts to a death threat, even if it is a light-hearted one.
    Adults do not make death threats, even in jest.
    I did not think that the comments of Herbert were all too helpful in this meleé, as he is clearly outnumbered by the opposition, having said that, none of the other contributors covered himself with any glory either.
    People who see the need to hide their identities ought not to be allowed on a public forum, they have something sinister to be concealed.
    Yes, Mr. Erwin Baxter said it succinctly. I can see no talent worth mentioning in the gang of hounds who have nothing better to do but attack one person. It appears to me that there is a racial element involved, but, considering that Nehrlich was 2 years of age at the end of World War II, it does lead one to the conclusion that the racist accusations are as unfounded as the drivel about correspondence schools.The racial hatred appears to come from the hounds.

    It has always been my experience that the very individuals who are neither accepted by their peers nor able to produce works of art or poetry or succeed in a world that expects achievement, are the ones who feel driven to go and destroy.
    The tools they use for these destructive rampages are many, none have anything to do with fairness or decency.

    You people paint a picture of hate, incompetence and, yes, envy without realising how you look to the casual observer or to those of us who take a closer look. The cowardly act of posting very cruel and nasty messages, only to remove them quickly is typical only of cowards and hateful people.It was mentioned that Nehrlich somehow prevents the discussion of poetry on the forum. During the time of Nehrlich's absence from the forum I have seen only very amateurish talk about poetry on this forum,
    however, I may have missed a gem or two.

    I had a teacher who was very fond of saying: 'If you want to be up yourself you must first be someone.'
    I think I will write to the owners of this website to make some suggestions.

    It will be very interesting to see what the future will bring, I will dropp by now and then.


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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (4/28/2005 5:31:00 AM) Post reply

      Hi Janine: Would you send me a message to my inbox or LOOK AT YOURS! Best wishes, H

  • Andy Konisberg (4/28/2005 2:20:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Back to the intended purpose of the forum I think. Personally, I am fond of Ivor Cutler's poetry...I'll post some soon. Any poets out there familiar with Ivor Cutler's work or got any opinions on it?

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  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (4/28/2005 1:40:00 AM) Post reply

    I agree Allan. The audacity of a liar calling others a liar.
    I have never used an alias but you can always count on the pot calling the kettle black.Especially if the pot is full of it.
    Don't let it upset you, these people do not have manners, they don't know the meaning of the word.

  • Allan James Saywell (4/28/2005 1:04:00 AM) Post reply

    mention my name in the forum one more time broderic, and you and the french woman
    will become aquainted if anyone is using a false name, it is you twisty

  • ***** ***** (4/27/2005 8:51:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    could everyone pleeease amend their spelling of the word 'dropp' (sic) .. it's really bothering me.. it's a small thing but it's 'DROP'... one 'p'. Just a bother for me these days because everyone seems to be doing it....

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    • Michael Shepherd (4/28/2005 3:37:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Sonja, it's a fault in the poemhunter copier from text to page. They've apologised, promised to put it right, but haven't yet...

    • maggie signaigo (4/27/2005 9:41:00 PM) Post reply

      sonja...oops sorry...guilty here...i did notice that spelling of the word as being present in one of my poems but i am not sure how that happened, and when i try to edit the poem now it will not save ... more

  • His Homeynence Sir Peckerwood Ali (4/27/2005 6:31:00 PM) Post reply

    MWAH! ! ! back to you Sherrie

  • Andy Konisberg (4/27/2005 4:55:00 PM) Post reply

    so what am I then guys? chopped liver? I've brought everyone a slice of fresh cherry pie...go ahead...enjoy...

  • kenneth william snow (4/27/2005 3:44:00 PM) Post reply

    I'm ready to kiss and make up...


  • Robert Rorabeck (4/27/2005 12:00:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    Has anyone one on here ever heard of Jim Carroll, the catholic baskeball player from new york- he wasn't part of a poetry movement, but was kind of inspired by the beats- Wrote his best poetry around 17 and his Basketball Diaries (which he started when he was 12) was turned into a lesser movie. He's definitely one of my favorites, but doesn't seem to be very well known around here. One of his later poems about Kurt Cobane is his only poem on the site- He also had an 80s punk band The Jim Carroll band which was pretty good, and has a few spoken word CDs out as well.

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    • Ulrike Gerbig (4/27/2005 12:48:00 PM) Post reply

      i know jim carrol. u.

    • Poetry Hound (4/27/2005 12:32:00 PM) Post reply

      I went to a couple of his readings in the 80s. Yes, he's identified with the beats. He's quite popular, so it's surprising he isn't better represented on the site.

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  • Poetry Hound (4/27/2005 9:51:00 AM) Post reply

    Mark, I admit I have a personal bias toward later 20th century poets. I find so much poetry from the 19th and early 20th century sort of plodding and difficult. Having said that, I actually like a lot of Wallace Stevens' work. 'Tatoo' is one of his famous ones that's acccessible. Also 'Gray Room.' He was writing free verse fairly early on. But I admit I don't have a deep familiarity with his work. You've prompted me to go check him out in more detail.

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