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  • Jefferson Carter (5/13/2014 11:25:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    If any PHer is interested in hearing me read a few poems and chatting about poetry, there's a video of an interview with me on youtube.

    Google youtube, then search Jefferson Carter poet. I look a little nuts and a lot older than I feel, but the conversation is pretty cool. Let me know what you think (that is, if you're not being too busy as a douchbag of a troll!)

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    • Gulsher John (5/14/2014 8:34:00 PM) Post reply

      thats really sounds sweet, in 90s everyone looks old nut, dont worry tnx

    • Peter Stavropoulos (5/14/2014 12:22:00 AM) Post reply

      Saw it Jefferson. Some interesting insights into you as a poet particularly the references to Swift & Keats, two very different writers yet both pivotal in your development as a writer.

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  • Mike Acker (5/13/2014 10:35:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    At first I was going to respond, but then I remembered the promise I have made to someone I respect. I also realized that I would be responding to a troll.

    Weaver, whoever he is, is absolutely right. Trolls complaining about trolls. Maybe one group of trolls was out-trolled?There is not a single person on here whom I have not responded to as myself. I have never needed to hide behind a persona.

    Jefferson Carter knows my name and address as I have received literature from him. I am intimidated by no one on here. The only one who could have ever intimidated me, is, ironically enough, Jefferson Carter, with whom I have a no issues.

    The others I described perfectly in my poem(MY POEM written by Mike Acker(not a persona) , Lamont P. And His Fellow Mediocrities.

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    • Mike Acker (5/14/2014 11:05:00 AM) Post reply

      Thank you, J.C. I agree fully that were personas not allowed, all this nonesense whould stop immediately.

    • Jefferson Carter (5/14/2014 10:40:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I believe Mike is not our current troll(s) . We've communicated by email, and unless he's a hopeless sociopath, which I doubt, I accept his constant assurances to me that he's not a troll. I believe ... more

  • delilah contrapunctal (5/13/2014 10:17:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    here's an exercise for trollish " multiples" , as well as for everyone else...as it seems to apply, generally as well as specifically, to most, if not all of us humans, real and imagined.....can you identify this quote and its many permutations originally attributed to Rilke/ in turn to Tennessee Williams/used in Tom Waits' tune " Please Call Me, Baby" lyrics/used in a piece of dialogue in the movie " Transsiberian" .......there may perhaps be more instances of its use....through the often slight changes in wording the meaning(s) remain clear, as I see it....any takers?

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    • Bull Hawking (5/16/2014 11:56:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Ok baby...if I exorcise my devils well my angels may leave toot....the little noise at the end was my embellishment....*smiles* Great to see ya D. Liked the dog dreaming poem too. g

    • Frank Ovid (5/14/2014 9:39:00 PM) Post reply

      Tennessee Williams and Tom Waits?You are really a cool lady. I don't know the riddle though.

    • Peter Stavropoulos (5/14/2014 2:14:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Could it be the line " the evening fell just like a star" ?

  • Frank Ovid (5/13/2014 9:41:00 PM) Post reply

    Excuse me, but I also wanted to remind everyone that when you send your complaint, don't forget to blame Acker's dirty, stinking, rotten, mother that birthed him. Don't forget that as well....... It's optional of course. The part about Acker's mother, that is. You really don't have to comply with that part of the agreement if you don't want to.

  • Frank Ovid (5/13/2014 8:51:00 PM) Post reply

    I've done my 3 emails, have you?

    Don't forget to 'copy and paste' all the bullying and inflammatory posts with the name, date, time etc. along with your complaint. Come on folks, we can do it! ! Let's take Acker to the woodshed!

  • Weaver . (5/13/2014 6:16:00 PM) Post reply

    OMG! Frank's broken the code: " Also, I'm sure everyone has figured it out, but in case someone hasn't, this guy becomes " your" name just so he can confuse the situation."

    Here's an idea. Since trolls seem to get all p*ssy ('i' or 'u' in place of the asterisk, as you please) when they get trolled themselves, let's abandon this facade about poetry and make the tier 1 trolls all cry by trolling them in return. Of course we'll be stuck with the tier 2 trolls, but the tier 3 brigade will come along shortly to rectify THAT situation. Eh?Eh?

  • Weaver . (5/13/2014 5:55:00 PM) Post reply

    The Blob Lyrics

    Beware of The Blob, it creeps
    And leaps and glides and slides
    Across the floor
    Right through the door
    And all around the wall
    A splotch, a blotch
    Be careful of The Blob

    Now just replace 'blob' with 'troll' and you'll see where I'm going with this.

  • Frank Ovid (5/13/2014 5:13:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Also, I'm sure everyone has figured it out, but in case someone hasn't, this guy becomes " your" name just so he can confuse the situation. All you have to do is look at the postings of the impostor and you will see hardly any postings. The impostor postings will also have that unmistakable " Acker syntax" that we've all come to love. The real " Scotty" or " Frank" (etc) will have pages and pages of postings.

    Come on! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?No! it wasn't. Let's fight back!

    (Sorry, I was on a roll there)

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    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 6:56:00 PM) Post reply

      Just a quibble here. It should be " The " real" Scotty or Frank. Placement is everything!

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  • Frank Ovid (5/13/2014 4:28:00 PM) Post reply | Read 6 replies

    I'm wondering why they don't do something about this Moth*rf*cker?Is anyone else complaining?This is ridiculous. Start bombarding these people with emails and let's get rid of this psycho. Everyone do at least 3 emails per day and they might get rid of him. Does anyone know how long he's been here, or better yet, who he might " really" be?I'm 90% sure he's Acker, but does anyone know for sure?Or is anyone positive it's not Acker?(I'd really doubt you, but every post will be taken seriously) Message me privately if you want, maybe we can come up with some game plan. I know it's hard to trust anyone, but christ, anything is better than this sh*t.

    I personally don't mind a little good-natured trolling, in fact sometimes they can be quite humorous, but this is at a completely different level. Cruel, mean-spirited, and down right stupid. Bullying at it's very worst. People, this sh*thead needs to be taken down. You have to start emailing these jokers at Poemhunter if it's ever going to stop. Or, if you think you can trust me (hard, I know) , then email me and let's figure something out.

    I'm also Steven Ralph (formerly Scotty Dogg until " he" stole my name) . Email either inbox, or better yet, let's just talk about it here so everything is out in the open. The main thing is DON'T respond to him in any way. Good or bad. Ignore him. No one respects his opinion anyway so don't worry about repercussions. I (we) care about your opinions, and it's not fair we can't discuss anymore.

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    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 7:27:00 PM) Post reply

      " Bullying at it's very worst. People, this sh*thead needs to be taken down." I take it all back! You ARE Poetry! Or some kind of gardening hoe. Take yer pick.

    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 6:44:00 PM) Post reply

      " ...but this is at a completely different level. Cruel, mean-spirited, and down right stupid." Frank Ovid (4/14/2014 7: 27: 00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply When was the last time you ... more

    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 6:19:00 PM) Post reply

      " People, this sh*thead needs to be taken down." This from a troll. Priceless!

    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 5:41:00 PM) Post reply

      " I personally don't mind a little ... more

    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 5:36:00 PM) Post reply

      " People, this sh*thead needs to be ... more

    • Weaver . (5/13/2014 5:33:00 PM) Post reply

      Aw, somebody's been out-trolled and does ... more

  • James Timothy Jarrett (5/13/2014 8:00:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply


    I always wondered where her love went
    It was like it was bled from her
    A slit vein that ran dry
    I was the only one that she gave it to
    And I was young and greedy
    And I think that I took it all
    Used it up
    A hungry pup nursing at the teat
    And there was none left over for anyone else
    She became withered and dry
    And by the time her own children came
    That love had been replaced by hate
    Maybe it had just been killed
    And that hate was like the darkness
    That is already in a room
    Just waiting for the light to be turned off
    And then it takes over everything
    It didn't help
    That it had been infused with heroin along the way
    Shot sweating late at night in a seedy room
    Or in the parking lot behind the strip club
    But something had turned that love to hate
    Solidified it in her veins
    Until she was nothing
    No voice
    No heartbeat
    She became a statue
    Just hard stone
    And the sad part is that she had four babies
    Who tried to nurse from her cold stone tit
    And tried to get some of the love that I had
    But it was long used up and gone
    And they had to try and survive and live
    With nothing to feed on but that cold hate
    And they all survived for the most part
    Except for Amber
    Poor Amber
    In the end, I think the hate finally got her

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