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  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (11/2/2005 5:58:00 AM) Post reply | Read 6 replies
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    Thanks for your concern. Just wanted to clear that up.

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  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (11/2/2005 5:55:00 AM) Post reply

    My comment that Coates’ poem was better than most of the poetry posted here was not mean or insulting towards any individual poet here. But I do think most of the daily avalanche of poetry posted here is unimaginative and cliché. So what else is new?

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/2/2005 2:30:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    Thought of the day:
    'What luck for rulers, that men do not think.' - Adolph Hitler

    Vulcano Haines (jr)

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    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/2/2005 6:09:00 AM) Post reply

      No. I am not trying to be irritating at all. Chomping at the bit I will leave to others but methinks that where Coates/England is welcome one can post anything. It will always be an improvement. I did ... more

    • Rookie Poetry Hound (11/2/2005 5:48:00 AM) Post reply

      Wow, unless you're intentionally trying to be irritating, I think you might consider giving this subject a rest. I do not detect a chomping at the bit among poets for more discussion on fluoridation.

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/2/2005 4:54:00 AM) Post reply

      It was written under the influences and pressures of fighting two battles on fluoridation. One in the state of Queensland, the other in Bellingham, Washington the latter has made the pages of Time mag ... more

    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/2/2005 4:43:00 AM) Post reply

      Well, that needs a context.

  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (11/2/2005 2:02:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Here is a poem by Anne Winters, who just won the $25,000 Lenore Marshall Prize for the year's best poetry book.

    Tosca With Man in Bedrock

    The Met's first winter broadcast, Tosca, amberized
    in her ivory court dress, lets fall
    one by one the pure drops of the Vissi d'Arte,
    while the cantilevered mezzanine, underlit,
    bright-eyed in its nests of stoles and fur tippets, hangs
    breathless … Straight down, past sallow platforms, sewer
    outfalls and steam lines, the man in the bedrock
    sidesteps in his worklamp's flattened yellow,

    spools out more wire, lowers his radio probe
    to the back of a rust-ridged centenary main
    fed by watersheds in the still half glacial Catskills—

    and hears, through bellcurves of pings, each note
    rebound off his shaft of preCambrian schist. Grey, void—
    the Manhattan Schist, laid down too early for fossils.

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    • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (11/2/2005 6:31:00 AM) Post reply

      I have no idea if this is considered one of her best. I just found it on Slate. But your analysis is intriguing. What I liked about it is the contrast of the earthly opera at the surface and the ping ... more

    • Rookie - 150 Points Michael Shepherd (11/2/2005 5:36:00 AM) Post reply

      So why did you post it anyway, PoHo? Is it an example of her best work? If I understand it correcly, it's a kinda outside-space-time comment on Manhattan? In which case the Met isn't the example I wou ... more

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (11/1/2005 10:59:00 PM) Post reply

    Poets, tomorrow's Wednesday, middle of the week. Let's get out there and hustle! Get out there and MOVE THOSE POEMS!

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/1/2005 10:41:00 PM) Post reply

    I received a poetry magazine today from America called Poetry today with articles about major living american poets the magazine is run by the International society of poets there is an artical on WD Snodgrass

  • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/1/2005 8:21:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Ok, I'm posting this in response to Michael's question regarding the 'romantic poetry' and whether spouse reciprocate this idealistic view of the other...etc. etc. I said I was going to ask Todd (my husband) to write me a poem.......figuring he would tell me where to go because he normally teases me about my poetry BUT...while I was in class tonight HE DID IT and I am posting what he wrote. I hope we can be gentle on the 'comments'... :) Keep in mind this is his first poem ever. (I will say I was encouraged to read the title: A Husband's Love (part one) .......hmmm I wonder if I've started something here? Mary

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    • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/2/2005 5:58:00 AM) Post reply

      Thanks for commenting on his poem you guys! He tried to act like he didn't care........but he sure was smiling when I told him the remarks and scores. He even commented on his 'next poem...' (he c ... more

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (11/1/2005 12:57:00 PM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    Here's a question: I read some romantic poems this morning that extolled the beloved and painted a picture of him/her as FAR, almost INFINITELY more beautiful, significant, worthy etc. than the 'mere' lover, who comes off kind of as a speck of dust.

    Do you think this attitude 'comes along with the teritory' in Romantic Love? Is is the attitude most poets expressing romantic love in the past have taken? Is romantic love POSSIBLE if one sees oneself as equal to the beloved?

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    • Rookie - 7 Points Michael Shepherd (11/1/2005 4:59:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I'm just thinking about your last line, Max...imagine a 'romantic' poem where you praise the beloved's exquisite taste in choosing to love your own perfectly sublime self!

    • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (11/1/2005 2:09:00 PM) Post reply

      Thank you for articulating these additional dimensions of the matter, Michael. Being a dilettante, I can't adequately answer them (I can scarcely spell 'adequately') , but who knows when PoHo or Lamon ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Michael Shepherd (11/1/2005 1:56:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      Since romantic poems are normally written by one party only, and then usually 'before the event', it would be interesting if not unique, to have both parties to the romance/partnership writing of thei ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Mary Nagy (11/1/2005 1:23:00 PM) Post reply

      I think the most romantic kind of love i ... more

  • Rookie Dee Maguire (11/1/2005 10:03:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Hi everyone Im new here and slowly getting through all of your most poems, they are so good.Ive recently wrote my own poem and I would apprecait it if you could give me your honest opinion.


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    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/1/2005 11:10:00 AM) Post reply

      Welcome, Dee. But honestly, since you ask: it's like wandering through a cemetery, seeing the freshly dug graves, the fresh flowers on old graves... you know that every one of them is a huge huge even ... more

  • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/1/2005 9:14:00 AM) Post reply | Read 5 replies

    Now for something more Forum-related. Did anyone notice the story about Britney Spears - newly Jewish thanks to Madonna - being commissioned to write kids' stories? What do you think about celebrities writing 'just because they can'? Be honest. Anyone read any that are really good?

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    • Rookie Richard George (11/2/2005 5:20:00 AM) Post reply

      From my side of the pond, not all 'celebrities' are bad writers - Stephen Fry (British comedian and actor) is a fine writer. So is Amelia Bullmore - a British actress who's played (among others) com ... more

    • Rookie Poetry Hound (11/1/2005 2:57:00 PM) Post reply

      Everyone thinks they can write a children's book, just like everyone thinks they can write poetry.

    • Rookie Max Reif (11/1/2005 2:11:00 PM) Post reply

      They say that Jamie-Lee Curtiss' are really quite good. I don't remember reading any celebrities' childrens' stories, so far. Guess I haven't been curious enough. You just evaluate their merits, the ... more

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/1/2005 10:15:00 AM) Post reply

      Hey, Sherrie, at least you're honest! A ... more

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/1/2005 9:18:00 AM) Post reply

      I'll offer the first take. Viggo Morten ... more

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