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  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/16/2005 4:05:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply
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    Here's a suggestion. Efrem Teymur founded this site from sheer love of poetry. There are now ads on this site by Google, for which service presumably they pay Temur and the advertisers pay Google. And Google presumably places the ads we see here on all the (4000+?) poetry sites on the web. Who presumably do an exchange anyway with Temur to be included in the links on this site.
    If we can persuade Efrem that it's in everybody's interest, he could 'stand behind' our publicity and arrange an ad for the anthology to be Googled to all poetry websites? That would be a start?

    You can waste so much money you don't have on placing ads and sending out free review copies to magazines, supplements etc whose business managers always have a shrewd eye for the quid pro quo; it's rare, or used to be, for any poetry book other than those from 'known publishers' to get comment, or to get shelf-space in 'general bookshops'. So web publicity is doubly valuable.

    And as I think I mentioned earlier, it might be useful to circulate potentially interested parties (e.g. poets and poetry commentators and reviewers we admire) with the pdf file rather than the book? Altogether quicker and less expensive.

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  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (11/16/2005 12:29:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Nikhil Parekh, you seem to have a good sense of press releases and PR. Even if you do not want to write the press release yourself, maybe you could explain what it should say. The PR websites you mention can help, but they probably need something from us to work with. Also, will you be available for interviews?

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    • Rookie - 150 Points Jerry Hughes (11/16/2005 1:06:00 AM) Post reply

      Hound, on Nikhil, we will have to agree to disagree. Cos I'm a strong advocate for the old adage: K. I. S. S. Keep it short, stupid.

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/15/2005 10:25:00 PM) Post reply

    THIS SITE IS WONDERFULL IN THE FACT THAT MY AGE IS STILL THE SAME DONT WORRY IT
    WILL CATCH UP NEXT YEAR

  • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/15/2005 8:12:00 PM) Post reply

    Ok, let me rephrase that Allan

  • Rookie ***** ********* (11/15/2005 7:38:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Where do those visitor numbers come from? I am amazed, surely it cannot be true? Are they mainly poets peeking in with only 2 dozen or so stopping by? Please someone explain, cus it's making me feel shy! I know! I don't seem that type of girl, but you would be suprised! lol

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    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/15/2005 8:47:00 PM) Post reply

      Sorry, it's on this page in answer to Allan's remarks. Best H

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/15/2005 8:37:00 PM) Post reply

      Tai, a big portion comes from the Iraq region. Please see my post on the previous page in answer to Sherrie's remark. Best H

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/15/2005 6:04:00 PM) Post reply

    now boys and girls transvestites and closet animals i have just fired a rocket up someones ginger now i go to the kitchen to cook myself a small portahouse
    steak i always feel hungry after i verball someone then i shall walk along the beach always on the lookout for people with veils and big bellies

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/15/2005 5:07:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    COULD SOMEONE TELL ME WHO IS IN CHARGE OF 'POEM HUNTER' WHO HAS THE TITLE OF
    SUPREME BEING OR WHO IS THE MANAGER OR THE CONTROLLER OF SAID ORGANIZATION CALLED POEM HUNTER OTHER THEN THE POWERS TO BE IN FRANCE, ARE YOU CURIOUS
    AS TO WHO IT MIGHT BE

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    • Rookie ***** ********* (11/15/2005 5:45:00 PM) Post reply

      I hope you guys are joking? I'm a bit naive ya see! lol Feeling neck! I think it's God, for she works in mysterious ways! rofl Tai Jester


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  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/15/2005 1:08:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    I think we should appoint Nikhil Publicity Officer (unpaid) ...

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    • Rookie Poetry Hound (11/15/2005 2:05:00 PM) Post reply

      I really think Nikhil is on to something with this media idea. I hope he will post a draft press release, or at least lay out the elements that should go into one.

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/15/2005 2:02:00 PM) Post reply

      Wow, go to lunch and come back to a best seller! And to think I was going to start a brandy new day job next Monday...hmmm...nah, maybe I'll keep that day job, you know, just in case. Any publicity ... more

    • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/15/2005 1:12:00 PM) Post reply

      Well, it surely sounds like he knows what he's doing! :) He's got my vote!

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/15/2005 10:11:00 AM) Post reply

    What a very generous and sensible set of posts. That should clear the air.

  • Rookie John Kay (11/15/2005 8:56:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    After my run in with Marcy, I was enjoying the breather; but here I am again, mentioned in a situation I am totally unfamiliar with. The question of criticism of someone else's work continues to raise its head. Many people don't want it, but I depend on it; otherwise, I'd be writing in a void, and Adam's criticism is very honest and fair and welcome. He once told me that there was only one line worth remembering in one of the poems I posted, and maybe he was being kind at that. He was right, and I didn't want to hear it, but that poem is now in the litter basket, where it belongs. My purpose is to write poems that are as near perfect as possible, without distractions, detours or bumps that take the reader out of the flow of the poem. Michael helped me with a recent poem when he said the German in the poem was a distraction. And Jefferson had four suggestions for the same poem, most of which I will incorporate. This is not about my 'precious' self-expression, it is about creating a lasting piece of art, one that can stand on its own and not be embarassing; and suggestions from fellow poets and writing teachers are more than welcome. The website itself encourages this. This is a public forum. That's my two cents.

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    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/15/2005 9:54:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      absolutely right, and you know me, John. I invite comments and extended the same invitation to Adam. What upset me was his telling me NOT to offer the same to him, and his assumption that it would a ... more

    • Rookie Michael Philips (11/15/2005 9:15:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Extremely well said, John. I have received some very helpful constructive criticism on my poems. I have incorporated quite a few of the suggestions I have received. In fact, that's the main reason I ... more

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/15/2005 9:01:00 AM) Post reply

      John, please read my comments posted under Adam's. Thanks.

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