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  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (11/17/2005 7:25:00 AM) Post reply | Read 5 replies
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    I would like to pick up on Declan and Michael's earlier responses to Sonja's question (whether people post on PH or on the Forum) as to whether this is a community. Declan posed the latter question, and Michael (S.) wrote eloquently about it. I feel this is *definitely* a community. How I got to posting on the Forum was by somehow hearing a poem of mine was being discussed...the poem had some adherents and one strong detractor. I don't know if I knew there WAS a Forum before that (it takes some time for some of us to find our way around this site!) , and at first I merely lurked, open-mouthed in shock that 'I' (well, my poem, my child) was being dissected here. I had no intention of opening my mouth with the seemingly VERY verbal people here, for fear I'd get my foot stuck in it within a few sentences.

    But there was 'another guy inside me' whose suppose desire/need of community and love of poetry got me to start sounding off here, and the rest is-well, ourstory.

    It's always kind of a marvel how 'people whose faces I've (mostly) never seen' can be such an important reference group, but then we've never seen the Soul either! Sometimes I post a poem or a Forum comment and it spices my morning, because I have to go to work and when I come home for my lunch break,4 1/2 hours later, I get to see responses. The other day I posted two short poems and I *really* didn't know whether they 'said anything', it was kind of a risk to be out there with them. Not that anything is REALLY risked...reputation? ...dear me! And when I clicked and faced 'that moment', there were 4 appreciative comments under each poem, each responding to a different facet. Occasionally, I *don't* get the comments, and then I have to either face the fact that the poem needs work, or accept that I still like it but it's 'ahead of its time' or something.

    I definitely carry you folks in my heart. I sometimes feel the same kinds of emotions I feel in a roomful of people. A couple times I've felt the discussion's 'passed me by' or I'm being taken as a 'lightweight'. It may be a bit easier to PRETEND such impasses don't affect my day and mood, and it may be subtle, most of the time, but I think they do.

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    • Rookie - 7 Points Alice Vedral Rivera (11/17/2005 6:44:00 PM) Post reply

      I definitely feel that this is a community - one of which I am glad to be a part. And yes, I appreciate comments but when I don't get any, that's ok too. I don't particularly care for those pesky 'on ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Mary Nagy (11/17/2005 10:57:00 AM) Post reply

      Max, I like how you said 'I definitely carry you folks in my heart'. I love that! I feel the same way about this site. No matter how cliche it sounds (I'll admit) this really is like a family. Su ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 8:50:00 AM) Post reply

      well said, Max. Regarding the Forum, I came here in a similar way, and I dare say it's now like (sorry for choice of simile) my morning coffee. I enjoy all the banter, and very often discover a new ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Michael Shepherd (11/17/2005 8:45:00 AM) Post reply

      I'm reading less these days, and apologi ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Declan McHenry (11/17/2005 8:28:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

      You are completely correct Max. No need ... more

  • Rookie Marcy Jarvis (11/17/2005 7:24:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    New picture updat to let you know that I am taking opinions for best cover art for the upcoming COFFEE issue. Check out four of the contenders that I've tracked down:

    derek-stuff.buzznet.com/user/? id=1014575

    daisies.buzznet.com/user/? id=1465976

    ea-bluemosaic.buzznet.com/user/? id=1911003

    turchese.buzznet.com/user/? id=1900942

    message me with your preference or submit your own. Cream, no lumps.

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    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 11:12:00 AM) Post reply

      very good point about cost and supporting the artist, Marcy. Scratch my earlier comment and put me down for the beach one, then.

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 9:04:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      ooooh, I found my favorite..then again I'm partial to black/white graphics. Check out www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_pages/0064-0503-0814-4400.html

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/17/2005 9:02:00 AM) Post reply

      see a bunch at www.flickr.com/photos/66668382@N00/search/tags: coffee/

    • Rookie Max Reif (11/17/2005 7:28:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Gee, ANY of the ones I've looked at woul ... more

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/17/2005 4:21:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    i wonder if the pope will open the world cup well he is german i wonder if
    he will bless the Australian soccer team

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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/17/2005 2:10:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    you wouldn't want to know i just met a tall pygmy he said to me are you demacratic and i said no but i'm very demonic

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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/16/2005 8:04:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies


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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/16/2005 7:39:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    what ever happened to that woman from turkey she made the top five hundred list and retired i wrote a poem about a turkey they go past my unit late of a evening to nest if they are going to mate they run past together it is hilarious nobody believes me but it is true i go out out wait for them i am
    five floors up people come out to watch me laughing, i remember now celine charcole that is right do you remember her thank god for celine i got some ideas from her

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  • Rookie ***** ***** (11/16/2005 6:54:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    If feelings were outlawed (Judge Dredd or otherwise) how on earth would poetry ever exist, Sherrie?

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    • Rookie Declan McHenry (11/17/2005 4:39:00 AM) Post reply

      It would still be there, just with strict forms, lots of dry rhyme and hard rythym. Oh, and draconian penalties for anyone deviating.

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/17/2005 1:24:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Now children, a sociopath is not a person without feelings.It is not possible to be a sociopath without having/experiencing feelings. As to the world being a better place without feelings, that is pu ... more

    • Rookie Alice Vedral Rivera (11/16/2005 10:55:00 PM) Post reply

      I seem to be under the impression that people with no feelings = sociopaths and that the only highs/lows they get is from winning/losing at their 'game of manipulation' that can manifest anywhere from ... more

  • Rookie ***** ***** (11/16/2005 6:11:00 PM) Post reply | Read 7 replies

    General question:

    Is rating/comment the only reason why people post here? [what about just wanting your feelings to be 'out there'? ]


    (this was asked in an earlier post and I wanted to put it to everyone)

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    • Rookie Richard George (11/18/2005 1:10:00 AM) Post reply

      For me, it's wanting poems of mine to be 'out there', when there are so few other avenues for publication. Ratings do matter to me though. I haven't had an 'out of ten' for a couple of months now - ju ... more

    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/17/2005 6:32:00 AM) Post reply

      Community - I think that for me Declan's hit it. I've just looked up the ecological sense of 'community' -a group of interdependent plants or animals living together. And isn't that the very history o ... more

    • Rookie Declan McHenry (11/17/2005 3:19:00 AM) Post reply

      Sonja, I guess that depends on whether you mean post poems here or just comments. I get the impression just posting poems on Poemhunter will get you more comments on the subject matter than on the sty ... more

    • Rookie Max Reif (11/16/2005 8:51:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply


    • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/16/2005 7:56:00 PM) Post reply

      I don't get mad when somebody gives me a ... more

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/16/2005 6:26:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Hi Sonja. If you mean post to the Forum ... more

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/16/2005 6:18:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I think you pose a good question. While ... more

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/16/2005 5:57:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    one of my poems that i wrote when i was thirty six years old, it is called 'Leechy scrub' you could say it is my favourite piece of work the poem
    that i hold dear to my heart and yet is has twenty five lousy votes since it was lodged many eons ago and dare i say it a piece called 'cluck chickens'
    where the chickens sound like there making four letter word noises has a
    couple of thousand votes it must make people laugh or perhaps chickens do
    sound like four letter words

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    • Rookie ***** ***** (11/16/2005 6:10:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Most of my poems have little response, but unlike you or some others here I don't come to the forum saying... 'thank you soooo much for your many votes on my work' (I see that as a convenient method o ... more

  • Rookie Sinnaminsun Sinnaminsun (11/16/2005 4:50:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Hello everyone :) I was wondering what your opinions of poetry.com aka: The International Library of Poetry are? They have monthly poetry contests, big gatherings once or twice a year, and also publish poetry books. Kim

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    • Rookie ***** ***** (11/16/2005 7:06:00 PM) Post reply

      No No No No. qed.

    • Rookie Lori Boulard (11/16/2005 6:30:00 PM) Post reply

      Kim, RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! If you mean poetry.com you should google it. I believe you'll get results under 'poetry scams', if you know what I mean. Their contests are legit (pay out is real) but be ... more

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