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  • Rev. Dr. A. Jacob Hassler (9/29/2005 10:26:00 AM) Post reply | Read 8 replies

    since we've been talking about Dylan, i thought i'd post the lyrics to 'Along Comes Mary' by the Association from 1965. i was always enthralled by the lyrics. and while it's a silly pop song, i really dig the arrangements of the rhymes and Russ Giguere fires them off like machine gun rounds in the recording, much like Dylan did at the time with 'Subterranean Homesick Blues'.

    for those who don't know, Mary isn't a girl. she's a drug. :)

    Along Comes Mary

    Every time I think that I'm the only one who's lonely
    Someone calls on me
    And every now and then I spend my time in rhyme and verse
    And curse those faults in me

    And then along comes Mary
    And does she want to give me kicks, and be my steady chick
    And give me pick of memories
    Or maybe rather gather tales of all the fails and tribulations
    No one ever sees

    When we met I was sure out to lunch
    Now my empty cup tastes as sweet as the punch

    When vague desire is the fire in the eyes of chicks
    Whose sickness is the games they play
    And when the masquerade is played and neighbor folks make jokes
    As who is most to blame today

    And then along comes Mary
    And does she want to set them free, and let them see reality
    From where she got her name
    And will they struggle much when told that such a tender touch as hers
    Will make them not the same

    When we met I was sure out to lunch
    Now my empty cup tastes as sweet as the punch

    And when the morning of the warning's passed, the gassed
    And flaccid kids are flung across the stars
    The psychodramas and the traumas gone
    The songs are left unsung and hung upon the scars

    And then along comes Mary
    And does she want to see the stains, the dead remains of all the pains
    She left the night before
    Or will their waking eyes reflect the lies, and make them
    Realize their urgent cry for sight no more

    When we met I was sure out to lunch
    Now my empty cup tastes as sweet as the punch

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  • Max Reif (9/29/2005 8:24:00 AM) Post reply | Read 6 replies

    What do poets eat?

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  • Michael Shepherd (9/29/2005 6:17:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Thinking back on that 'Judas' moment, which some commentators pass off as just a heckle, it could be the classical 'tragic fall' moment where character fails? 'Folk song' is by definition, the simple and pure-hearted singing to their ilk. 'Turning up the volume' is more than just that - it can be taken as auditory bullying; and conforming to current fashions of musical presentation is to run the risk of becoming - as one musician commented - 'show business' instead of 'show'. There's still a devoted minority (and proud of it, as non-commercial) audience over here for folk music. Eminem seems to be going through the same tricky crucial 'moment'. Last night we had his discoverer-producers congratulating themselves for becoming rich through his acceptance by the former 'ebonic-only' Detroiters...

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    • Max Reif (9/29/2005 8:24:00 AM) Post reply

      It has a lot of elements of a tragic fall. Looking at it from that perspective, the hero's only flaw, or hubris, I guess, is underestimating the almost infinite resistance of 'the public'. I can say t ... more

  • allan james saywell (9/29/2005 6:06:00 AM) Post reply

    is there a naughty poem on site i hope the granny association of America
    hasn't objected to my leaking granny, i will have to learn a different
    language to confuse them

  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/29/2005 4:30:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    Hi everyone:
    It has just been brought to my attention that the hidden member facility seems to be working either only regionally or intermittently.
    Three members were shown as hidden about 5 minutes ago but they were all listed as well. Total numbers were 8 visible, three hidden. But 11 names showed in alphabetical order.
    Is this deliberate or what?
    Any ideas?
    Best wishes
    H

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    • Michael Shepherd (9/29/2005 5:20:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      They may, of course, have felt obliged to consider whether your Adolf poem rendered the management liable for incitement to world terrorism...Our Leader Rises Again to Complete His Task...think about ... more


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  • allan james saywell (9/28/2005 11:38:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    i posted a poem this morning i just wrote it, i read it a while ago i hope it doesn't offend anyone, some one gave me a one, i forgive you and i ask you your not a granny are you, there is one line involving a granny i do say sorry to all the grannies and the little girls with curls the little legal girls who are of legal age to be sitting in a folk singers lap but i do write on impulse
    and when i do, anything can happen

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    • Michael Shepherd (9/29/2005 5:37:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Mr Asm, you should have edited your impulsive poem! ...but you have a brutal point, the world hasn't entirely followed Dylan's advice... after you've edited, send it to Dylan. He might appreciate it, ... more

  • Richard Jackson (9/28/2005 10:56:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Some information:
    'Sticks and stones may break my bones....'
    A nursery rhyme!

    © Richard Jackson 2005

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/29/2005 3:05:00 AM) Post reply

      And sticks and stones don't ever cry, that's why I let them pass me by. But poison ivy, stinging nettles and yugoslavian java kettles they must be watched most every minute as you can see, it's ... more

  • Allan James Saywell (9/28/2005 9:45:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    this is one for herbert to translate(MILLIONEN) STEHEN HINTER MIR
    DER SINN DES HITLERGRUSSES

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/28/2005 9:59:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Allan, as far as I know this was not a poem then (are you creating one?) . it was the mocking photomontage of a workers' newspaper in the early thirties, saying ' I've got millions behind me....' mea ... more


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  • allan james saywell (9/28/2005 8:17:00 PM) Post reply

    i love cats they are much cleaner then dogs, i am looking after a cat at the moment it kept me awake all night was trying to tell me something but we speak a different language, how are you all this is a great site for posting my poetry
    you seem to be peaceful creatures

  • sheila knowles (9/28/2005 4:39:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    message for Sherrie. I can't send you a mail so if yuu read this can you please send me a PM. I'd like to ask you something. Thanks
    Sheila Knowles

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/28/2005 5:08:00 PM) Post reply

      I will change the 'gaps to fill' to the more civil and benign 'gaps to bridge'. Thank you for listening. H (jr)

    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/28/2005 4:57:00 PM) Post reply

      I will be more than happy to be the middleman. Ask Sherrie and she will knbow what I mean when we talk about gaps to fill between two poets. Just entrust your intimate, juicy or otherwise salient quer ... more


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