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  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/4/2005 7:03:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

    I have just posted a poem dedicated to Sherrie. To be read after dinner.
    Best
    Sir H(jr)

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  • Allan James Saywell (11/4/2005 5:43:00 PM) Post reply Stage

    Dont worry my little Sherie i still love you in a twisted sort of a way

  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/4/2005 4:45:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies Stage

    That brings up a question from this end. A book published by a university dental school (I had posted details about it here previously) has 'commandeered' my poem Teeth and they are apparently publishing it. I was never asked and only found out on Google. Not that I mind of course but when I sent in a poem about the London bombing to the british Medical Journal where I regularly write medical stuff they did ask me to confirm that the poem could be published. There probably are no fast rules (?) .
    Best
    H

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    • Richard George (11/5/2005 2:06:00 PM) Post reply Stage

      Is that the University of Michigan School of Dentistry? They've put my tanka epigram 'Breaking A Tooth' on their poetry web exhibition.

    • Michael Gessner (11/4/2005 8:19:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      Mr. Nehrlich: If the poem is not in public domain, that is, it has appeared years ago, (country laws vary on this, I believe in the U.S. it's 27,) and the author is no longer living, then the pie ... more

  • Allan James Saywell (11/4/2005 4:14:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies Stage

    a great morning here in china perched up on the great wall drinking green tea
    and reciting my poetry to the great vast landscape

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  • Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 10:36:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies Stage

    Interesting article about Chinese poets going on-line these days. 'While affirming online poetry, some scholars also worry about the warm but confusing situation of online poetry because online poets follow their own inclination in writing.'

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    • Michael Shepherd (11/4/2005 10:53:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Chinese poets admire Allan's poetry, he reminded us, so there should be some interesting developments soon in Chinese poetry.

    • Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 10:36:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      It's at the top of the homepage right now, I meant to say.

  • Max Reif (11/4/2005 9:11:00 AM) Post reply | Read 6 replies Stage

    Just posted a poem dedicated to you guys. It's called 'The Faces of People I've Never Seen'. ta-ta for now.

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    • Max Reif (11/4/2005 10:02:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      ok, Marcy and Raynette are both in it now.

    • Max Reif (11/4/2005 9:58:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      I forgot, I could have put you in it, Marcy. Do you have red hair? I'll go back and do it. Raynette, well, I don't get a physical image of you. (I'm sure you HAVE one! Actually, now, someone's coming ... more

    • Raynette Eitel (11/4/2005 9:26:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      I'm just relieved not to be in it, for you might have pictured me as a little old gray haired lady with bifocals. :) Raynette

    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 9:20:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      Are you tall Marcy?

    • Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 9:19:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      It's especially great that I'm not in it ... more

    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 9:18:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Great poem Max!

  • Michael Shepherd (11/4/2005 8:52:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies Stage

    Seems there might be a place for a non-exploitative publisher to be upfront and say, we're selective but it's a way of getting you out there and we balance our books by selling the books...not unlike what 'small poetry magazines' do anyway?

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    • Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 11:20:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      There isn't any need to risk any investment anymore, Michael. You can put your books up with on-demand printing places for no investment whatsoever and they get printed one at a time as orders come i ... more

    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 9:22:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      I always tell my husband that when I win the lottery (ya never know) I would finance a poetry magazine that was circulated worldwide that was primarily poets off poemhunter....I would love that!

  • Poetry Hound (11/4/2005 8:26:00 AM) Post reply | Read 5 replies Stage

    At the risk of stating something unpopular, and knowing that this might anger Sherrie, my good buddy who is being published by Dogma Publications, I nevertheless have to say that Dogma Publications looks like one of those outfits that accepts almost anything sent in and then makes its money by selling you the book in which your poem was 'published.' True, they don't require you to buy the book like many such outfits do. But that's definitely how they make their money. Since there is no indication in their publications list of what poets are being published in their anthologies, why on earth would anyone buy one of these anonymous black-box books unless they know their poem is in it? Adding further to my suspicious, the dogmapublications.com website mentions not a single poet by name and has no links to other poetry sites. I don't think they care about poetry. They care about getting you to buy the books in which your poems are published. If folks think I'm wrong, please let me know.

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    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 9:45:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Well, I figure they can only 'scam' you if you allow it. I won't buy their books.....but I'll surely allow them to publish my poetry in them. I know there are people out there buying them whether it ... more

    • Raynette Eitel (11/4/2005 9:31:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      I don't know a thing about dogma but I do avoid poetry.com like the plague. It is disgusting. I know a sweet little lady who thinks she writes great poetry because they keep sending her awards and s ... more

    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 9:13:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies Stage

      Well, I'm pretty sure each poem I've ever submitted has been 'supposedly' published into one of their anthologies and I sincerely doubt if each one was 'print-worthy' I've even seen some poems that yo ... more

    • Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 8:49:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Poetry.com publishes everything? Actual ... more

    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 8:33:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Well, you're probably right P/H. I don' ... more

  • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 7:25:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

    Sherrie,
    When your poem was published by dogma.......did you buy the book? If so, do you mind if I ask how much did they charged for shipping?

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    • Poetry Hound (11/4/2005 9:52:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Yes, Sherrie has vowed to beat me at Nude Scrabble ever since I beat her at Strip Monopoly. But it won't be easy to beat me. She knows I'll be stiff competition and won't get caught with my pants down ... more

  • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 5:45:00 AM) Post reply | Read 5 replies Stage

    I have a question that I hope to get some opinions on: What do we consider plagerism? If we write something that somebody says they've read somewhere before (just a phrase) although we've never read it before.....is that plagerism? Surely this can't be. A line in my last poem reads:

    I'd trade them my tomorrows
    if that gained them one more day.

    And Herbert says he's read it before.......that it's not originally from me. Does that insinuate plagerism? I guess I'm a little confused because the line 'I love you' would have been plagerised thousands of times. I don't think Herbert was accusing me of copying it on purpose but it brings some questions to my mind about what can you really write that hasn't been written at least once before? Any thoughts? Sincerely, Mary

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    • Richard George (11/5/2005 5:35:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      The lines are originally from the song 'Me And Bobby McGee'. Janis Joplin did it I think and the Grateful Dead as well. It's very easy for lines like this in songs to smuggle themselves into your memo ... more

    • Max Reif (11/4/2005 7:50:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      Well, in the short story reading and writing class I took when I was 15, my teacher listed 9 themes and said all literature expresses those themes. (Somebody else said there are really only 2 themes, ... more

    • Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 6:18:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      Herbert, I know you consider plagerism to be a VERY serious matter.....so, when you said that you don't consider that last part of my poem to be my original work, yes, I took it pretty serious. I'm ... more

    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/4/2005 6:14:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply Stage

      Mary, don't take things so seriously. He ... more

    • Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 6:04:00 AM) Post reply Stage

      yes, I'm always afraid the dictionary pe ... more

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