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  • Rookie Rev. Dr. A. Jacob Hassler (1/5/2006 2:19:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply
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    in case there are any of you in the New Jersey/Delaware area, my friend Barbara sent this along...

    Boscov's at Cumberland Mall on Delsea Drive at Route 55 in Vineland, NJ (856-327-3800) is offering a class on publishing and self-publishing on Friday, January 20,2006 from 6: 00pm to 8: 00pm. The class will be held in the auditorium and is free. The instructor is William Burns of Tri-County SCORE.

    To sign up, just call!

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    • Rookie Mary Nagy (1/5/2006 3:15:00 PM) Post reply

      That would be so nice. (Too far from me) but, I was just telling my husband that I would like to find a writing group or some type of group here in my area to have help and advice on writing. If I ... more

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (1/5/2006 10:07:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies




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  • Rookie Joseph Daly (1/5/2006 9:56:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Sorry to be such a pain by taking up so much space, but I have just discovered a fasinating thing. Having just posted a poem about ants, I returned to doudle-check there were no typos, only to notice that there is a link to pest control above the piece.

    How innovative this world of wonderment!

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    • Rookie Max Reif (1/5/2006 10:08:00 AM) Post reply

      Yeah, that's the way they software does it! I've seen animations of snowfalls right next to a poem about snow, like an illustration!

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (1/5/2006 9:56:00 AM) Post reply

    I just read a very satisfying interview with T.S. Eliot, by Donald Hall, that appeared in the PARIS REVIEW in 1959. If anyone's interested, it's at:


    The archives of that magazine contain landmark interviews with many, many of the great writers of the 20th century:

    I was interested in particular in one question Hall asked. He said that the interview was taking place in 'the age of Eliot, Pound, and Stevens'-those poets were primary influences on current ones. And who occupied those roles when Eliot was coming of age as a poet? His answer: no one.

    And does anyone, in your opinion, poets, occupy that role now? Or is the poetry world 'fragmented' or multi-faceted so that one poet has one main influence, and another has a different one? (That's what I think.)

  • Rookie Joseph Daly (1/5/2006 9:48:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    I have to ask: Is some bloody psychotherapist recommending writing as therapy and posting it on PH as some quack inducement to build self-confidence. If so, would they lay off and consider the effect this is having on us struggling artists.

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    • Rookie Joseph Daly (1/5/2006 10:19:00 AM) Post reply

      I have read it and am dumbstruck, almost lost for words, but not quite. Awesome, my dear!

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (1/5/2006 9:27:00 AM) Post reply

    Because everything is food for poetry, just about anything that smacks of 'life' is relevant here in the Forum, I think.
    I just listened to an interesting interview on 'fresh air' (NPR) about the history of American comics, ie the funny papers. The guy who wrote it is the son of Mort Walker, who originated the 'Hi and Lois' and 'Beetle Bailey' (which I've always found pretty dorky) strips. He gave a history about how, in the early 1900's there were social and religious movements *against* the comic pages, even editorials; but the public always devoured them, thus insuring their continuation.
    However, Walker went on to lament how UTTERLY conservative readers of the comic pages are...any bedroom scene in 'Hi and Lois', a couple married for decades, are immediately excised by the editors. One frame that showed the baby, Trixie, being left alone in the bathtub for ONE panel, while her mom went to the closet (in the same bathroom, but off the panel) for a towel, inspired a scathing letter from a reader 'How dare you leave Trixie alone in the tub! '
    Most of you here will want to stick to poetry. As I came to consciousness, I was amazed how banal some of the strips, like 'Nancy and Sluggo' were. When I was little, there was that bald, skinny boy named Henry, who never spoke. Also, 'The Little King', who was pretty funny sometimes. And of course, 'Pogo', who would say, 'I dismember' when he meant, 'I forget (don't remember) . 'Pogo' retains interest for any poet, I would think.

    Today I sometimes peruse the Comics pages in search of a laugh. Occasionally, I find one.

    Here's the link for the interview, if anyone's interested:
    www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php? storyId=5080874

    Any of you folks have favorite, or unfavorite, comic strips, current or past? Memories, stories?

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (1/5/2006 9:03:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    Well, I am looking forward to a peaceful year. It is rather pleasant to visit at P/H and we shall make it even more pleasant.
    I trust that exterminators, windowcleaners and maids can be employed to keep things in total harmony.
    Also, I would like samples of poems posted in the forum to get a 'taste' if that is possible.
    What do you think?

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    • Rookie Joseph Daly (1/5/2006 9:42:00 AM) Post reply

      I just noticed that the spat between yourself and the learned professor Hound has also been deleted. How nice! Does this mean group hugs session?

    • Rookie Joseph Daly (1/5/2006 9:38:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      So Herbert, did you start by deleting your reply from the message I left concerning the ratings system? Were you withdrawing your valued support, in order to maintain a bit of peace? I am heartbr ... more

    • Rookie Max Reif (1/5/2006 9:17:00 AM) Post reply

      Could you please elaborate on that last idea, Herbert? I have no idea what you mean, yet. Thanking you much.

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (1/5/2006 8:35:00 AM) Post reply

    Well, boys and girls. The clouds have been wiped away to make room for the silver lining, you know Argentum nitricum.
    Sorry about all the fruits falling off but there is a light breeze that could signal that we all live under the same sky yet none of us have the same horizon.I just posted a poofter poem, hope I am not offending anyone. It is about a friend (not close) who is a retired schoolteacher and the grandest guy, otherwise.
    Best wishes
    Best wishes

  • Rookie Rosa Mayfair (1/5/2006 7:33:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    Can people please comment on my poems, if they have the time, thank you

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    • Rookie Mary Nagy (1/5/2006 7:46:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Rosa, I really enjoyed your ''Beggar Man'' poem. I think it's a very thoughtful poem and shows your heart. sincerely, Mary

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (1/5/2006 7:43:00 AM) Post reply

      So sorry. Looked at two (to be fair) of yours. Didn't like them at all. Back to the groceries. Best wishes and don't take MY word for it. Ask Carter, JC H

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (1/5/2006 7:40:00 AM) Post reply

      Rosa, I shall hasten to comply. Mainly because I used to purchase most of my groceries at the Mayfair Markets during my stay in the USA. Should you be a heiress of said chain, give me time. I shall r ... more

  • Rookie Joseph Daly (1/5/2006 6:35:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Sort of keeping on the same track as Joy. I think that the rating system, for individual works, should be done away with. It serves no purpose as it cannot bear relation to the comments left on each piece of work. The fact that some, anonymous person has given the poem a 10 or a 1 is so slight an indication of how they view the work as to be a total irrelevance. It bears little on the more important question, to the reader and the writer, that being: Why?

    I would suggest that visitors be allowed to leave comments, a sort of guestbook book if you like, seperated from the comments left by members,

    Ranking has become a fetish in today's world; a world that sometimes cannot think or value anything beyond the superfluous. Everything is reduced to a perverted democracy that we find in 'Your favorite blahs' type of books, journals or websites.

    It is a wonderful example of insulting the inteligence whilst making us a part of it, thus making us feel good about having a role to play.

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    • Rookie Rev. Dr. A. Jacob Hassler (1/5/2006 8:43:00 AM) Post reply

      right you are, Denis. statistics, rankings, numbers. our entire culture has become a series of countdowns. it's all about who stacks up against whom.

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