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  • Tony Adah Freshman - 2nd Stage (9/10/2014 2:32:00 PM) Post reply

    I have just finished reading a poem " the lost parrot" by Naomi Shihab Nye, a Palestinian -American poet. In this poem Carlos tries with much difficulty writing a poem about his lost parrot. Because the parrot is gone, he is unable to write about it. He loves it so much. It could be the symbol of something he lost in life.
    The poet shows how laborious it is for Carlos to write with mental images like- he crunches over the table, pencil gripped in the fist, shaping the heavy letters. I love the rythms of this poem too. A splendid craft by Nye.

  • Jefferson Carter Rookie - 1st Stage (9/10/2014 1:28:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Poemhumpers, does anyone besides myself think Pranab and Gangadharan are persona-trolls? I ask the same question about them that I ask about Adam Snow: how could anyone be this illiterate and still expect others to take him seriously? They've got to be jokes. Yes?

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    • John Westlake Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/10/2014 4:49:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      It is not the nicest of things to be knocking other poets. Whatever happened to respecting your fellow poets?? Come on


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  • Abekah Emmanuel Freshman - 2nd Stage (9/10/2014 1:21:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Poetry writing.....not a medical science or legal practicing that is esoteric............. freedom........... thats all!

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    • John Westlake Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/10/2014 4:51:00 PM) Post reply

      Freedom indeed. Yet even this is unfortunately censored by some. Yet it will do for now

  • Gangadharan Nair Pulingat Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/10/2014 10:43:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    There are folklore poems and poems which have no known poets that are familiar with the countrymen who were working for a living.

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  • Gangadharan Nair Pulingat Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/10/2014 10:42:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    There are folklore poems and poems which have no known poets that are familiar with the countrymen who were working for a living in paddy fields, plantations, gardens in earlier eras. These poems have not kept for future generations through printed books but they were transferred to generation to generations in verbal singing

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    • John Westlake Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/10/2014 6:15:00 PM) Post reply

      True enough. This is because at the time, many could not read or write

  • Gangadharan Nair Pulingat Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/10/2014 10:40:00 AM) Post reply

    There are folklore poems and poems which have no known poets that are familiar with the countrymen who were working for a living in paddy fields, plantations, gardens in earlier eras. These poems have not kept for future generations through printed books but they were transferred to generation to generations in verbal singing. In my own country and state Kerala in northern side there were hundreds of thousands of " Vadakkan Pattu" or Northern poetry in praise of militant and strong leaders or tribal chieftains at that time who got care and concern from the rulers or kings of the area. They were sometimes quarrelled each other in fulfilling basic norms of fighting. These incidents written into poems are wonderful poetry of those times the people particularly the working women enjoyed in the middle of their work in such adverse climates of torrential rain and flood but their courage and capability to recite and recite making into chorus sometimes which attracted the people of the time where TV or Radio were not available. I think that poetry coming in these occasions are really the great poetry of the time but unfortunately they lacked preserving and in the brink of loss forever.The working class poem they are and their literary value and fascination immense.

  • Sherrie Kolb Cassel Rookie - 1st Stage (9/10/2014 10:06:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Good morning from sunny, scorching, drought-ridden southern California! Hope you're all well.


    Little Song

    By Rowan Ricardo Phillips


    Both guitars run trebly. One noodles
    Over a groove. The other slushes chords.
    Then they switch. It’s quite an earnest affair.
    They close my eyes. I close their eyes. A horn
    Blares its inner air to brass. A girl shakes
    Her ass. Some dude does the same. The music’s
    Gone moot. Who doesn’t love it when the bass
    Doesn’t hide?When you can feel the trumpet peel
    Old oil and spit from deep down the empty
    Pit of a note or none or few?So don’t
    Give up on it yet: the scenario.
    You know that it’s just as tired of you
    As you are of it. Still, there’s much more to it
    Than that. It does not not get you quite wrong.



    Source: Poetry (September 2014) .

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    • Jefferson Carter Rookie - 1st Stage (9/10/2014 1:24:00 PM) Post reply

      I don't know, sort of ok poem, but I hate this line: " Blares its inner air to brass." Something both trite and stiff about it.

  • Mohammad Skati Bronze Star - 4th Stage (9/9/2014 3:01:00 PM) Post reply

    Long time ago any poet or poetess was considered a real spokesman or a spokeswoman to his folk or to her folk. At all occasions poets were considered of great value in the victory of their nations or their tribes... Life has changed since then, but poets or poetesses are still of great value to their nations. Thanks.

  • Gulsher John Rookie - 1st Stage (9/9/2014 10:40:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    If I had not existed, someone else would have written me, Hemingway, Dostoyevsky, all of us. Proof of that is that there are about three candidates for the authorship of Shakespeare’s plays. But what is important is Hamlet and A Midsummer Night’s Dream, not who wrote them, but that somebody did. The artist is of no importance. Only what he creates is important, since there is nothing new to be said. Shakespeare, Balzac, Homer have all written about the same things, and if they had lived one thousand or two thousand years longer, the publishers wouldn’t have needed anyone since.

    William Faulkner, the purpose of Art.

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    • Jim Hogg Rookie - 1st Stage (9/10/2014 3:27:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      I don't know if it's small minded or not Lamont but I certainly think it's brutal. I rattle on at times about free will but can never reach a conclusion because I really can't get any traction either ... more

    • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/9/2014 4:12:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      I see Faulker's point and its a fiercely objective one that takes the personality of the artist out of the art. Eliot had a similar view. Ironically both of those gentlemen had pretty sizable egos, so ... more

    • metamorphhh (aka jim crawford) Rookie - 1st Stage (9/9/2014 3:09:00 PM) Post reply

      Hi, GJ. I'm not sure what the term 'important' means regarding artistic expression. I mean, " I love you" has been said countless times, yet each utterance has the capacity to be very import ... more

    • Jim Hogg Rookie - 1st Stage (9/9/2014 11:30:00 AM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

      Some general rabbitting about to get und ... more

  • Gangadharan Nair Pulingat Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/9/2014 10:32:00 AM) Post reply

    History of great poets and poems and their countries are important to study. A poetic talent is nurtured and the influence of family, living conditions and country's set up of the times are sometimes influenced the poets and poet is the product of society though talent is one thing to reckon. So historical background of the great creative poets is advisable to study.

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