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  • Melikhaya Zagagana Rookie - 1st Stage (9/21/2014 10:45:00 AM) Post reply

    Heyyyyyyyyyyy! been all along freezing in the lounge and missing out some nice action; I have nothing to say let me be and not spoil the fun. Let me stand by and think what i know about a situation like this. This is all fun to me fun! fun! fun! fun! you guys are really good entertainers keep up the good work.

  • Gangadharan Nair Pulingat Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/21/2014 7:50:00 AM) Post reply

    I like History and books on history as well as great poems ] I have read the Book of India 1526 written by V.D.Mahajan once more and felt it more informative of the history of India the Mughal period as well.

  • Sean North Rookie - 1st Stage (9/21/2014 3:30:00 AM) Post reply

    triED, IT, so ReadEr duznt kILL me... SQuEek lIttle... thank n ThanX.. enjoy dont you choose.. but i dont need to hear about it do i???thats the next step kids... later..n yeah st8ments reflecting were time is being spent...hmmmmmm ... most PrO fOunD... mister Y sssssss... play with yaself nicelynow... you silly sausage..n take ya meds
    social fedia indeed... BOL OCkERs..n StUFF wHo saYS itS nOt a Side EfFecT of technology... with good n bad effects.. no dOubtbOuTtIt.

  • Sean North Rookie - 1st Stage (9/21/2014 2:21:00 AM) Post reply

    yes de jah vu doo @ wurk, its adressed?? so move on, thanks.... thnks Sherrie...glad that wurked 4 u.... poor littLe miCe'S thO......enJoy ...

  • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 7:05:00 PM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    Your 'points' are getting dumber and dumber; its really hard for me to believe you're serious. This probably will be my last post to you because I feel like I'm lowering myself by responding to such idiotic remarks. But perhaps you'll learn something. Many admirers of Shakespeare are not writers themselves, does that stun you?And many admirers of Shakespeare are BAD writers. Bad poets can LOVE great poets and appreciate in them what they don't see in themselves or cannot produce. I LOVE Eliot, though I don't possess a mind expansive enough to do on paper what he did. But he certainly is a wonderful role model, in terms of writing rich, interesting, free and metered verse. That's how you get better as a poet, by READING and LIKING poets much GREATER than yourself. For those reasons, a strong poet will attract the attention of various readers, at various levels of their development, not the poet's equals. I'm happy those poets are reading me. Perhaps that will enrich their verse in some way. I'm shocked I had to explain that to you. But thanks for giving me a chance to expound on my pet themes. -LP

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    • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/21/2014 1:00:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

      There's a long-time member who also has a habit of reposting other member's poems into the forum or on his FB page as an example of bad poetry. He and 'Acker' have very similar behavior. I'm beginning ... more

    • Professor Plum Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 10:45:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Wrong answer Lamont. The POINT is he shouldn't do that. It's totally wrong and you know it. Those people have have feelings too, and they don't deserve to be dragged into these silly arguments. Don't ... more

    • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 10:32:00 PM) Post reply

      Well, once your poems are public, particularly on a site like this, he doesn't necessarily have to ask for consent to use it. The problem is, the point he was making with the poems is a stupid one. -L ... more

    • Professor Plum Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 8:04:00 PM) Post reply

      I wonder if he had the permission of tho ... more

  • Mike Acker Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 5:05:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    'Palmer" , I thought it would be interesting to see who these " supportive critics" of yours are. Just like I thought, the first one, Patricia Grantham, has quite a ways to go before we can qualify her as a legitimate critic. Here is an example of her poetry:

    Child's Play
    by Patricia Grantham

    When the children goes outside to play
    So happy just to see a brand new day
    They're color blind in each and every way
    In love and peace or come whatever may

    Love can come in all kinds of shade
    Like the hues sparkling from the rainbow
    In the image of God is how we are made
    Called the human race that we all know

    After running or playing hide and go seek
    Hungry, tired they're all humble and meek
    Learning from them we can unite as one
    Child's play goes on until the day is done

    Moving on....

    by Heather Wilkins(Burns)

    of you
    entice me

    into your

    You haunt
    with your

    I phantom

    Need I say more???

    I don't want to embarrass anyone else. My issues are with your lack of talent, but you drew them into this.

    Just face it Palmer, after 45 years of reading and writing poetry, you should be further along

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    • John Westlake Veteran Poet - 3rd Stage (9/21/2014 3:12:00 AM) Post reply

      You know you should not be being so childish. Other people's poetry does not belong to you. You could end up getting kicked off site for that kind of behaviour.

  • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 1:56:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    'Acker', is there anyone who is trying to create mediorce poetry?If a poet isn't trying to pen great poems, he shouldn't be writing at all. No, you may not get there, but you should be making attempts. If my poems strike you as 'efforts' at greatness, then you are unwittingly saying that you see remnants there of that effort. I certainly cannot say I see that effort in you, as your poems strike me as lazy and slack. And by the way, you didn't post the comments on that poem. I'll take their opinions over yours, as what they say mirrors the effect I was striving for. In other words, they got it. Thanks for the 'critique', such as it was. -LP

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    Patricia Grantham (9/7/2013 7: 51: 00 AM)
    A very refreshing poem. We can never get rid of the inner child
    that lies in us. It keeps us feeling alive and youthful whenever we
    choose to act that way. Enjoyed the fantasy. (Report) Reply

    Heather Wilkins (8/3/2013 12: 31: 00 PM)
    love this one. we all have inner children (Report) Reply

    Michael Morgan (8/2/2013 3: 22: 00 PM)
    Deserves the 10. Very fresh. MM (Report) Reply

    Dave Walker (7/31/2013 2: 56: 00 PM)
    A great poem, like it. (Report) Reply

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  • Shifty Moriarty Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 11:55:00 AM) Post reply


  • Mike Acker Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 11:29:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    @Lamont Palmer

    Being desperate to write without the triteness you mentioned, I went, well, poem-hunting. I ran across this " original" piece. I can't for the life of me recall the name of the writer. Maybe he(or she) can step forward and claim authorship.
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    Peter Principle
    (not written by me, thank god)

    It’s a complete fantasy.
    A fantasy of a fantasy, =(cliched, and trite all at the same time)
    A generalization of yellow =(it is clear here that poet was seeking originality and when none would come naturally, he created it artificially! Originality can't be manufactured)
    Open roses.

    We’ve said things with aplomb, ideas =(big word for Big Bird, falls flat and heavy..where is the music, Palmer?)
    Centering around hope and urges:
    (me getting under your sun dress,
    you getting under my skin) =(to me these side comments you include in your poems are silly and show a clear lack of maturity on the part of the poet)

    And all for naught, all under the assumption
    That you and I are wondrous
    Exceptions, to turn around what needs to be

    Turned, the isolation of shooting stars.
    Such silliness I thought I’d left behind; such
    Are inner children, caught in J.M. Barrie’s tale.
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    I will say with honesty that your soul is not that of a poet, but rather a pompous a$$, desperately yearning to produce " great" poetry.

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    • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 6:59:00 PM) Post reply

      Its your 'opinion' the poem failed. Others liked it. Considering I don't respect your opinion, its a moot point. -LP

    • Mike Acker Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 5:10:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      When the poem fails, you call it playful. You have an excuse for everything, I guess.

    • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 2:55:00 PM) Post reply

      Yes, that was a playful poem. That's pretty obvious. Your problem is, you don't recognize wordplay and inventiveness. You're too busy trying to make maudlin points. -LP

  • Shifty Moriarty Rookie - 1st Stage (9/20/2014 4:35:00 AM) Post reply

    dire dude dire

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