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  • Allan James Saywell (4/8/2005 10:35:00 PM) Post reply

    yes i dont no what is happening, people will do anything these days
    there certainly is some crazy people about

  • Scarborough Gypsy (4/8/2005 7:57:00 PM) Post reply

    Dear Allan,

    I don’t understand the comment that you left for me under “Different Shoes”. I have no idea what you are talking about. If there is some constructive criticism in there or advice, please explain it in plain English and not some cryptic message. I wrote that poem from the heart. It was supposed to convey a message of how I felt about people judging others. If I did not succeed in getting that message across in my poem, then I did not achieve what I had set out to do. I do not appreciate being sworn at or the uses of swear words in our comment boxes. Please show me the same respect that I show all members on this site and don’t include me in your petty games.


  • Allan James Saywell (4/8/2005 6:54:00 PM) Post reply

    hello good morning, is everybody well

  • Poetry Hound (4/8/2005 5:33:00 PM) Post reply

    I am not confused at all. I find it suspicious that you only criticize certain people on this site, not a word about this latest deception by Janice aka 'Diane Utteridge' or the smarmy behavor of Herbert-Allan-Janice-Sandra. Now why would that be?

  • Sylvia Spencer (4/8/2005 5:27:00 PM) Post reply

    Well, Well, Well I thought you would have had more sense as so to cofuse me with different people, and you my dear sir are the bigest culprit. this is surposed to be a poetry site (with the love of) what is the matter, why is every one at one anothers throats. this is more like 'The Gunfight at The OK Coral' than poemhunter.com.Come on now, your a man with a mission, get this site to as it was or is this your favouret hobby, making people leave the site because of what the forum does to them.I am sorry PH but this site has lost so many good poets of the chat in the forum it should not be allowed.

  • Sylvia Spencer (4/8/2005 4:58:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    If I was A younger person studding poetry and I found this web site, then read some of the messages that has been put over here. I would no doubt think to myself (What have I let myself in for) Then again I would think, better not get involved on this site, because things could get out of hand.Of course being no older than eighteen and doing A levels at college. I think I better move on, only this chat does remind me of when I went to (first school) and I have grown up so much since then, and I have learnt not to put my ear to idle chit chat.What a wonderful site this would be if only some of the obstericals could be removed. As in obsterical race, I wonder who will fall first and who will take the prize. Well my opinion is that all good poets should keep away from the forum, and I asure you they will be the winners.

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    • Poetry Hound (4/8/2005 5:00:00 PM) Post reply

      What do you think of the fraud being perpetrated by Janice Pickett? What do you think of the mudslinging engaged in by Herbert and Allan?

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  • Poetry Hound (4/8/2005 4:46:00 PM) Post reply

    Now she's posted a 'poem, ' pretending not to have heard our legitimate criticisms of her and the Four, and innocently wondering why we are supposedly attracted to war. This reminds me of one of those old B-movies where some lady has multiple personalities, and there’s some dopey psychiatrist with a puppet saying, “Can I talk to Janice now? ”

    And then the actress changes her expression and says, “Yes, this is Janice.”

    And then the psychiatrist, using the puppet, says, “Why are you so hard up for acclaim that you engage in fraudulent behavior? ”

    The actress grimaces. “Janice is gone! This is Diane Utteridge! ”

    “Okay, Diane, ” says the psychiatrist calmly, “Tell me why you are suddenly sticking up for Janice on a website where you supposedly spent very little time? Why can’t Janice speak for herself? ”

    Then the actress changes to a third personality. “Why are you harassing me? ” she says. “I am simply trying to bring joy to people with my poetry. Why do you insist on war instead of peace.”

    The psychiatrist shakes his head, exhales, and calls over some men in white scrubs, and they gently escort her to a padded cell. “You can write your poetry in here, honey, ” one of them says.

  • Diane Utteridge (4/8/2005 3:59:00 PM) Post reply

    I have just had an email forwarded to me from one of the poets who I have added to my site.
    She has asked me to notify the group of people on Poetry Hunter that she left you site because she has no desire to be involvrd with all the time consuming arguments she calims there are here.
    I have agreed to post this on her behalf as she is no longer registered.
    Please do not bring my site into your ramblings. It is open to ALL poets who would like to place a few poems there.
    My aim in starting the site was to give a voice to work I personally enjoyed.
    As such POETIC PALACE is my castle of work that pleases me.
    It is pleasing that so many of you have been there and read the poems. Thankyou for your interest. But please, leave the arguments here in this environment and enjoy my site for what it is. A place of great poetry.

  • Poetry Hound (4/8/2005 3:30:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Now that I think about it, one doesn't necessarily communicate better in person than over the internet. I'm thinking about it in a business sense. My career has taken me all over the world and the style of communicating in China and Japan, for instance, is very different from the style in the West. There is a great value put on indirectness and face saving, and there are certain cultural niceties you have to adhere to in meetings. Even if you know this in advance, it can be maddening to do business in these countries. But over the internet, it seems almost silly to be indirect, and my Chinese and Japanese colleagues understand this for the most part. They get right to the point and send terse emails just like Westerners. So I think the internet has actually improved communications in this regard, or at least made them more efficient. However, with this homogenization of cummunication, the things that gets lost are many of the cultural niceties.

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    • Lenchen Elf (4/8/2005 4:17:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Hi PH A global form of communication can sit quite happily alongside the retention of personal culture, though as you say in business and as I've experienced in the global exchange and analysis of re ... more

  • Lenchen Elf (4/8/2005 12:07:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    I find the whole concept of language removed from its context of accompanying non-verbal comm. to a medium such as this quite fascinating. So many strategies of accompanying written conversations with tempering visual cues such as garish, but sometimes all too necessary emoticons have developed to acommodate a whole sub division of language specifically for speed of interface and to convey tone for accurate interpretation.

    Isn't it intriguing that thought via a medium such as this is then further encrypted by poetry?

    I wonder whether at the language switch required by four or more forms of thought here, from the visual-literal of net speak on an open forum/soap box, to poetic metaphor, symbolism, allusion etc, to then flip back into communication on a one: one basis with individuals in privacy of the mail box, to then hold a physical conversation while typing with a colleague, family member in the 'real world'
    Language is so often an enclosed code within families/soc... here we have several in operation at once, not really surpising we have misunderstandings: -)

    all the best

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    • ***** ***** (4/8/2005 1:49:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      webcams can clarify the emoticon ;)

    • Poetry Hound (4/8/2005 1:34:00 PM) Post reply

      By emoticons I assume you mean things like the Smilies that you put at the end of a message. I've never used them because to me they seem too restrictive. They seek to distill a facial expression or e ... more

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