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  • Andrea Wilde (4/10/2005 6:07:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Hi all, new here.
    I am currently writing an essay about Sylvia Plath.Where do i start?

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  • Herbert Nehrlich1 (4/10/2005 5:02:00 PM) Post reply

    I agree, Allan she does throw around a lot of words, straight from the dictionary. Did you see her comment about Nietzsche...'his character flaws notwithstanding..'. My, I think he was a great guy and would have taken the whip if he had ever had the inclination to visit. The quote is his, not mine.
    For a person so in the middle of academia I wonder why she hasn't learned the difference between it's and its. Probably too busy with poetry.
    Yes Allan, envy is a terrible thing.

  • Allan James Saywell (4/10/2005 4:49:00 PM) Post reply

    sherrie you dont write poetry you dont have the gift, you are an imposter a fraud
    you come into the forum full of shit, your words mean nothing
    have a cup of tes two sugars to sweeten you up, how much work do you nout
    as your little yorkshire man would say

  • His Homeynence Sir Peckerwood Ali (4/10/2005 4:33:00 PM) Post reply

    why dear God in heaven
    are they so stubborn?
    and why...do they always need to get in
    the last word?

  • Michael Shepherd (4/10/2005 2:16:00 PM) Post reply

    Mark, Sandra how far back?

  • Michael Shepherd (4/10/2005 2:12:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Mark, if I follow you, this theory (which I didn't know of) is similar to the art theory dreamed up at Goldsmiths' College in London - that the artist makes something which he knows less about than the spectator - a theory which could cover anything from divine inspiration to not knowing what the hell you're up to! And of course, there's a grain of truth there, between intention and interpretation.
    But that doesn't answer the straight question, which was first addressed to ulrike, but which I posit as a general question? What's your answer in your own experience?

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    • long gone (4/10/2005 2:46:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I think that it is a little bit of both, Michael. We are, initially, our own readers and critics. We assess what we write (excluding 'automatic writing' or 'spontaneous combustion'as it may be known) ... more

  • Michael Shepherd (4/10/2005 1:05:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Ulrike, your clear response raises a very elementary question which seems almost silly to ask: do you/we give any regard to the reader of a poem while we write it? Is there any sort of division between 'expressers' and 'communicators'? Does sincerity cover both aspects? As a lifetime journalist, I've always felt obliged to consider the reader, while remaining true to myself. So it's never raised itself as a question for me. But now it has!

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    • Ulrike Gerbig (4/10/2005 10:24:00 PM) Post reply

      good morning! i went to bed last night having to work this morning...this is why i did not answer... but anyway, although interested in theories of all kind i am not a big friend of general sta ... more

  • Michael Shepherd (4/10/2005 12:38:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Dr Nehrlich,
    For a poet like yourself, rated higher than TSEliot, Auden, Emerson and Alexander Pope, by visitors to this site, it seems to me that calling me a 'rat' in the comment box to my poem 'Self-search' is, how shall I put it, somewhat metaphorically loose in relation to a critique of that poem, for one so highly regarded?

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (4/10/2005 5:12:00 PM) Post reply

      Michael, you know very well that the rat comment was not aimed at you. It amazes me how a man of your age and intelligence would deliberately misunderstand something as simple as this. I have not t ... more

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  • mother baxter (4/10/2005 9:02:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    by the holy jumping camels, what is this a battle ground are you people mad
    cairo is never like this, have a cup of tea please, calm yourselves down

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  • kenneth william snow (4/10/2005 8:56:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Cease Fire! !

    We are adults...we have free will...will to create beauty...or will to foster hate...WAKE UP! !

    You call yourself poets...are you illuminating for the well-being of mankind or for the satisfaction of self? Be humbled good sirs...the day fast approaches when we each have an audience of one...Let's see your hate shine then...Poet

    your humble servant

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    • kenneth william snow (4/10/2005 9:13:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      We all need to re learn the job description of Poet...when we allow the notions of nobodys to affect vision and mission we fail and surrender our place amongst the angels; losing primary function as g ... more

    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (4/10/2005 9:03:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Sir: Do not misuse the word Poet and waste it on those who would not know how to write a poem. H

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