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  • Rookie Raynette Eitel (6/2/2005 3:10:00 PM) Post reply
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    I just came on this morning and want to skip back to the notion of rating of poems. I think Lamont said that it is too subjective. Well then, what do you think goes on when you send your poems to various editors? Get used to having your work judged subjectively. Of course you don't get a helpful comment from everyone...so you can either take the number rating or leave it. But in case you've never sent a poem off like an innocent young child on his way to kindergarten, you may not know that editors most often don't have time to critique you and don't let you know why your wonderful poem is rejected...or if they do decide to publish you, then you may wonder why this poem and not that. It's a cruel world out there...and take whatever ratings you have.

  • Rookie - 0 Points Scarborough Gypsy (6/2/2005 9:10:00 AM) Post reply

    Poetry Hound,

    I am not opposed to any poetry discussions. That is what the forum is intended for and I do not think that any discussion on poetry is “BS” as you put it. What I am opposed to is the defamation of character on poets and people who comment here. What gives anyone the right to say that someone is not qualified to give an opinion? ? I just think that the constant bickering is childish, unproductive and unnecessary. Who is gaining anything from it?


  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (6/2/2005 8:50:00 AM) Post reply

    So gypsy, what do you think of the poetry discussions on the forum? Are they all full of BS? ALL of them?

  • Rookie - 0 Points Scarborough Gypsy (6/2/2005 8:48:00 AM) Post reply

    Oh Poetry Hound, You are so wise and above all that come here. We must all lower our heads in your presence and back out gracefully when ever you challenge us. Of course only your opinion counts unless of course you agree with someone else. I will say what I want when ever I want and I don't give two hoots if anyone agree's or not. Why don't you contribute some poetry and let us judge that? ?

    Love you always

  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (6/2/2005 8:36:00 AM) Post reply

    Actually, the forum hasn't been all BS. There have been quite a few discussions about poetry here. There have been discussions about individual poems and poets and discussions about writing styles and what makes a poem a good poem. And there has been some healthy disagreement. Inevitably, these discussions were interrupted by people who want to play games and make fun of the people having the discussion. Now, if you don't think much of these discussions and choose not to ignore them, then you have a choice: You can either join in and explain why you think someone is full of it, or can smirk from the sidelines and make fun of the participants. Seems to me the latter approach is pretty childish.

  • Rookie - 0 Points Scarborough Gypsy (6/2/2005 8:04:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Thankyou John for your kind words of encouragement, though I am relatively thick skinned with what goes on on PH. I hope you enjoy your time here and take the best of what you can get out of it. I have met many good and true friends on this site and it really does sadden me to see it get abused the way it does.

    Albert, thankyou also for your response to my posting. Though we have not met before and I do not know you, you have made it quite clear that you are exactly the type of character that I commented on. I hope you too enjoy your time on PH and get as much out of it as you hope to.

    All the best and warm regards

    Herbert, I will never understand your continuous partisipation in this forum after all that has gone on? ? ?


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    • Rookie - 0 Points Albert E. Neumann (6/2/2005 10:14:00 AM) Post reply

      Herbert is responsible for 99 and 44/100 percent of what vitroil goes on in this forum, Nehrlich and his misogynistic cast of characters. Don't take a holier than thou attitude with me. I've been a vi ... more

  • Rookie - 0 Points Scarborough Gypsy (6/2/2005 7:25:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    How refreshing to see that nothing has changed on the forum since I last visited at least a month ago. Still the same egotistical characters (though names may have altered somewhat) the sentiments are the same. Just like returning to a “Gentleman’s”
    Club in Soho, what? Sooo glad you are all enjoying yourselves and filling up your precious artistic time with such substance. I will leave you now to (no doubt) bag me out too and congratulate yourselves on saving the forum from being subject to yet another uneducated, untalented and unworthy member. Hang loose dudes. Stay cool and chill (your bony arses) out.

    Lots of love

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    • Rookie - 0 Points Poetry Hound (6/2/2005 8:42:00 AM) Post reply

      You're right that some things haven't changed - the personal attacks and vitriol. But the thing that HAS changed is that there are actually some discussions of poetry. Or do you prefer the vitriol?

    • Rookie - 0 Points John William Hall (6/2/2005 7:55:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Hello. I am relatively new here as well and I am terribly sorry to see you treated like this. Your comments were very realistic and please don't pay attention to the troublemakers. Welcome to the OK ... more

    • Rookie - 0 Points Albert E. Neumann (6/2/2005 7:50:00 AM) Post reply

      The way I see things if you are not part of the solution than you are part of the problem. Your rhetoric does nothing to quell the flames, perhaps you should make your next absence longer than your la ... more

  • Rookie David Zvekic (6/2/2005 1:52:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Ode to Words I Didn't Write
    I drifted off throughout that night,
    My breath held deep in thrall to art
    With words I felt but didn't write -
    They fled my pen; I couldn't start.

    Although I knew what words devised,
    In writing what would never be,
    As ink did dry, the words revised,
    My words! They had forsaken me!

    In muted silence did I oath,
    (For grammar too eluded me) ,
    And wrote some sentence without mouth,
    Expressing drivel where dreams should be.

    In writing down did words appear,
    And basest letters did transcribe -
    My soul said more than air could hear;
    My words, alas, could dirt describe.

    -(c) David Zvekic 2005

    Is this the forum for insulting each other? Perhaps this is the wrong place.

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    • Rookie Mary Nagy (6/2/2005 5:42:00 AM) Post reply

      Well, I don't know about the 'insulting eachother' part but.......that's a wonderful poem David. Sincerely, Mary

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (6/2/2005 1:37:00 AM) Post reply




  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (6/2/2005 1:18:00 AM) Post reply

    carter you are not in a position to say anything about anyones poetry
    you are not qualified and your opinion would mean nothing
    your own work is poor very poor, you would be lucky to please a kindergarden kid
    and yet you come out and say the new boy on the block's poetry is poor
    i read a couple, let me tell you this it is better then yours, on a bad day
    and i say welcome mister parekh, and good luck

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