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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (6/14/2005 10:35:00 PM) Post reply
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    sonja please tell me you are talking about a different allan, you seem obsessed
    with the idea that i am everywhere even in your soup

  • Rookie David Zvekic (6/14/2005 9:54:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Who thinks there should be a way to post a review ANONYMOUSLY?
    That way you can actually post a scathing critique without feeling self concious about it.

    I also propose the author of the poem have the power to delet any such anonymous reviews - so as to allow themselves the chance to read them and then fix their
    poem without having a permanent stigma attached.

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    • Rookie Andrew Konisberg (6/15/2005 5:40:00 AM) Post reply

      you can critique anonymously by going to 'my profiles' and changing your name. you will still be able to post as 'David Zvekic', only your name for leaving forum comments and poetry comments will be c ... more

  • Rookie Andrew Konisberg (6/14/2005 7:11:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    ...oh yes, and if anybody ever wants to leave some scathing comments/ critiques upon my poetry, feel free to do so. I am sincerely flattered that anybody would read anything I wrote. Changing tack, any thoughts on the curtal sonnet? I am taking a break for a bit but I will attempt a few when I return. I am trying to study sonnet forms and I think I could do something with the curtal sonnet...even though it seems to be treated as a curiosity piece. I've read some of Hopkins' curtal sonnets in the last couple of days...any thoughts?

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    • Rookie t. h. ashbury (6/14/2005 7:43:00 PM) Post reply

      scathing critiques and commentaries seem to be rare here, although i would tend to agree, tell me what you think, don't read my work and rate it a 1... not because i entirely internalize that #, altho ... more

  • Rookie ***** ***** (6/14/2005 6:31:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    sorry Andrea, but I do remember coming across you a while ago.. and wasn't your name Allan then?

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    • Rookie Andrew Konisberg (6/14/2005 7:13:00 PM) Post reply

      Sonja, are you suggesting that it is Allan and not Andrea that has a boyfriend? I find that to be a disturbing development; -)

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (6/14/2005 5:28:00 AM) Post reply

    OK, let's take Jefferson up on this, in the most positive way.
    I say that Laura Cummings, at her age, is exactly the sort of person poemhunter is for, and whom we should be encouraging creatively. She has concern (read her two little time-bombs on sex abuse) and some serious material to deal with. She is working to make poetry of this. My advice to her on the poem she says 'Lamont hates' is that having written the 'material' she should now try to write a version of the poem as poetry. It just might teach her a lot about turning 'material' into a deeper 'content' within a poem.

    She's just the sort of person, I say, who needs intelligent comment. And she's tough enough to take what we might throw at her, so she say, lol!

    But in the end, whatever we say, just keep posting, Laura - it's for the readers to decide whether what you write is what they want to read...

  • Rookie Andrew Konisberg (6/13/2005 10:21:00 PM) Post reply

    okay. I have decided not to leave a mark on poets' works from this point on. I will only leave a comment on a work that has caused me to remark upon it. I would encourage anyone that that reads my work NOT to leave a mark but all comments are gratefully appreciated. I've never liked marking other people's poems anyway because I think it is a bit insulting to the poet's intelligence whose work I'm reading. there are a few people here who only leave comments anyway...so, I say, anybody that would care to join the 'comments-only' approach to do so. thus 1/10's become entirely irrelevant. I've just looked and I'm on a reasonable average rating-per-poem.I will willingly let that rating slide to 0.1 by encouraging people NOT to mark me but simply leave a comment upon one of my poems if they liked it. thus, anybody who quibbles about the churlishness of numerical ratings (with fair reason) can join me in calling others not to numerically grade their work and offer comments instead. then we will see who will 'put their money where their mouth is'.

  • Rookie David Zvekic (6/13/2005 10:35:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Is this the correct forum to actually discuss poemhunter.com itself?

    I would think no. But there is no other forum more appropriate that I can tell.

    With such a forum the administrators could more easily determine how to
    improve this sight rather than rely on meaningless polls.

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    • Rookie Michael Shepherd (6/14/2005 7:45:00 AM) Post reply

      David, info@poemhunter.com gets daily feedback from around the world, which is often answered directly. Or you could air your suggestions here?

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (6/13/2005 9:06:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Sonja, I've just checked 'First Kiss' which has 33 ratings but no hits on the actual poem... now that's seriously weird! Such a readily recognisable situation you've described too. But whatever your individual ratings, your page-visit stats are doing fine? Anyone any clues? Sue Casey, you're the expert on this situation?

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  • Rookie t. h. ashbury (6/10/2005 4:07:00 PM) Post reply

    good afternoon all,

    i've just started posting here and finally figured out how to post to the forum. i'm playing a bit with form and would welcome any response(s) to my work that any of you might offer. thanks and best wishes.

  • Rookie ***** ***** (6/10/2005 11:08:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    Well, sorry but that's it for me - and this time I'm afraid I wouldn't have the stomach to come back (at the risk of sounding like a certain person) . In one night my work bombed from an average of about 8.8/9 gradings per poem (a general average of about 9.0 to an average of 5.0) to the 4.3 mark per poem. All poems had many more votes today than yesterday and they were all obviously ones. I wouldn't be sensitive to votes really, but when people take out unexplained vendettas on my work, well, I just won't put it out there for that.

    Thanks for all the kind comments from those who bothered to read the poetry, but that's about all I can take. Good luck to the decent folk here - and God help the spare parts.

    Sonja Broderick.

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    • Rookie Rev. Dr. A. Jacob Hassler (6/10/2005 1:17:00 PM) Post reply

      what Kenneth said. really, Sonja, you have written some profound work just the short time you've been back. one-givers be damned, we all know you're a better poet than that. Jake

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