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  • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 7:25:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply
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    When your poem was published by dogma.......did you buy the book? If so, do you mind if I ask how much did they charged for shipping?

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    • Rookie Poetry Hound (11/4/2005 9:52:00 AM) Post reply

      Yes, Sherrie has vowed to beat me at Nude Scrabble ever since I beat her at Strip Monopoly. But it won't be easy to beat me. She knows I'll be stiff competition and won't get caught with my pants down ... more

  • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 5:45:00 AM) Post reply | Read 5 replies

    I have a question that I hope to get some opinions on: What do we consider plagerism? If we write something that somebody says they've read somewhere before (just a phrase) although we've never read it before.....is that plagerism? Surely this can't be. A line in my last poem reads:

    I'd trade them my tomorrows
    if that gained them one more day.

    And Herbert says he's read it before.......that it's not originally from me. Does that insinuate plagerism? I guess I'm a little confused because the line 'I love you' would have been plagerised thousands of times. I don't think Herbert was accusing me of copying it on purpose but it brings some questions to my mind about what can you really write that hasn't been written at least once before? Any thoughts? Sincerely, Mary

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    • Rookie Richard George (11/5/2005 5:35:00 AM) Post reply

      The lines are originally from the song 'Me And Bobby McGee'. Janis Joplin did it I think and the Grateful Dead as well. It's very easy for lines like this in songs to smuggle themselves into your memo ... more

    • Rookie Max Reif (11/4/2005 7:50:00 AM) Post reply

      Well, in the short story reading and writing class I took when I was 15, my teacher listed 9 themes and said all literature expresses those themes. (Somebody else said there are really only 2 themes, ... more

    • Rookie Mary Nagy (11/4/2005 6:18:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Herbert, I know you consider plagerism to be a VERY serious matter.....so, when you said that you don't consider that last part of my poem to be my original work, yes, I took it pretty serious. I'm ... more

    • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/4/2005 6:14:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Mary, don't take things so seriously. He ... more

    • Rookie Marcy Jarvis (11/4/2005 6:04:00 AM) Post reply

      yes, I'm always afraid the dictionary pe ... more

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/4/2005 4:10:00 AM) Post reply

    haiku or senryu?
    only one
    can see two

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/3/2005 11:59:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    hello all you titless men how are yous i'm going to lodge a protest by burning what is left of my only pair of undies i'm protesting about my fingers getting caught in the wire of every bra i try to undo i believe it to be a health risk

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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/3/2005 5:10:00 PM) Post reply

    women relax you dont need a bra when you have me for a dozen eggs i will
    walk behind you holding your mammories exacty where you want them

  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/3/2005 10:14:00 AM) Post reply

    ...er.. what are we arguing about? A piece of poetry news? Scum again? Fluoride as herbicide?

  • Rookie Marcy Jarvis (11/3/2005 8:16:00 AM) Post reply

    Herbert thinks he knows something about the ink spot at the Wartburg. LOL.

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/3/2005 8:16:00 AM) Post reply

    Well, I must go now Marcy. You need to pick on someone of roughly your own intelligence level (perhaps some of the backwoods of Bavaria) but don't try your luck in the Wartburg region. My ancestors would not take kindly to a foreigner of your type and do have minimum requirements. I shudder when I think that you might stick a wad of Wrigley's onto the ink spot.

  • Rookie Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/3/2005 8:10:00 AM) Post reply

    Why do you always run and hide Marcy? Didn't you want mother to see your offerings in the forum?
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    Marcy Jarvis (11/3/2005 7: 51: 00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Herbert claims to be one of the 'gods'. Doesn't that just explain everything?

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    Herbert Nehrlich (11/3/2005 7: 54: 00 AM) Post reply | Delete this message
    Yes it does. But I hereby command you to write God with a capital 'G' and while bowing your balding head. The following song comes to mind: 'Are you lonesome tonight...' G

  • Rookie - 7 Points Max Reif (11/3/2005 7:31:00 AM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    'THE BIG D': Andrew coined that monicker for Death in a recent poem about people's last words. I know one great 'last words' story. Wonder if anyone else knows any. (Michael just wrote a poem with one in it.) Please, only real stories here. If you want to post a 'wouldn't it be funny' made-up 'last words' story, that'd be great, but start a new thread, ok?

    Here's my favorite one:

    Fritz Perls, father of Gestalt psychotherapy, & a charismatic figure at Esalen Institute in California, was famous for never listening to anybody, just doing his own thing. He was finally in the hospital, as an old man, for a heart ailment or something. He lit up a cigarette in bed, and the nurse said, 'No Smoking, Dr. Perls.'
    'No one tells Fritz Perls what to do! ' he replied, and died!

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    • Rookie - 7 Points Richard George (11/4/2005 1:05:00 AM) Post reply

      Last recorded words of Wyndham Lewis, cantankerous colossus of Modernism: 'MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! ' - to a nurse in London who'd just asked him about his bowel movements.

    • Rookie - 7 Points Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/3/2005 7:45:00 AM) Post reply

      Fritz who never left Germany really behind made many memorable statements for daily use. One of my favourites is: 'Psychoanalysis is an illness pretending to be a cure'. He died of a heart attack, wa ... more

    • Rookie - 7 Points Michael Shepherd (11/3/2005 7:37:00 AM) Post reply

      There are three anthologies of Famous Last Words. (I posted this already; it appeared on screen; disappeared. It was prefixed by a space and a double bracket - others be warned) . Would make a grea ... more

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