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  • (B10Z ) (9/12/2005 12:43:00 PM) Post reply

    I just wrote a new poem called The Root of the Heart. Feel free to write back and tell me what you think.

  • Michael Shepherd (9/12/2005 10:45:00 AM) Post reply

    Sherrie, please post your comment below as a poem posting; just as it is, or better, maybe, enjambed... the younger readers would love to read it, and the conclusion is totally right imho...

  • Allan James Saywell (9/11/2005 8:18:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    i love a story ask yourself, what does a poet look like, i was introduced
    as a poet to some people, a woman said you dont look like a poet i said, sorry
    but i have had a hard life so what does a poet look like does he OR SHE wear a bib and a little pair of pink panties and ride a white horse

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    • Rev. Dr. A. Jacob Hassler (9/12/2005 9:45:00 AM) Post reply

      if more female poets looked as voluptuous as you've described, Sherrie, i'd hit the Slams alot more often!

    • Jerry Hughes Rookie - 1st Stage (9/12/2005 1:02:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Allan, I'd give a weeks wages (if I were still working) , to see you in a bib, pink panties, and riding anything, including a horse. Wonderful imagination!

    • Richard George Rookie - 1st Stage (9/12/2005 12:31:00 AM) Post reply

      I saw a cartoon in Private Eye in London years ago - little rich girl at a party says to neat, respectable-looking man 'How can you be a poet - you're not drunk! '

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  • Allan James Saywell (9/11/2005 7:19:00 PM) Post reply

    Sherie you are right about the fact that as poets no one is going to say
    let me help you become a well known poet here is a couple of thousand dollars to promote your poetry it's not going to happen all we have is the ability to write poetry on a site such as poem hunter and hope that some people read it and say this person is a poet if you have talent people will recognise that talent the problem can be it is usually after death
    but if you are a genuine poet it will not matter just that your poetry
    will reach out and touch someone the bonus is that you can relate to people that are the same as you who come from all walks of life, different countries
    the biggest thing is sharing your love of poetry and have fun while doing it

  • Allan James Saywell (9/11/2005 6:14:00 PM) Post reply

    sorry about that disappearing but i made a spelling error, sonja there are people who want to hear there poetry recited by a professional regardless of the fact of cost let it be said that i am not one of those people
    i did record my voice reciting poetry, some of my poetry and burnt it on cd
    and i might add it was a couple of years ago i did it because i wanted to save it for my children to listen to after i move on so it is not a new idea
    back in the fiftys in america you could record yourself in a studio singing
    then get it cut on acetone elvis did it for his mother, at a cost
    i did a backup copy of all my poetry on dvd just in case cyber space eats it up
    anyway how are you, can i be of service to you in anyway

  • ***** ***** (9/11/2005 4:49:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    They will do the product but at a high price for the individual poet and with no ensuing profit or profile for the poet.

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    • Allan James Saywell Rookie - 1st Stage (9/11/2005 6:35:00 PM) Post reply

      nothing is free Sonja if you want a profile you have to work hard promote yourself you might even have to dip your hand into your pocket and spend some money i know a woman poet who has a cupboard fu ... more

  • Allan James Saywell (9/11/2005 4:42:00 PM) Post reply and the International Library of Poetry used to put poetry onto
    cd they did a the best international poets of 2002 they had a professional reader the poems were very professionaly done in a recording studio with
    music as a background they recorded one of my poems 'MIRROR MIRROR' YOU CAN
    dO YOUR OWN POETRY AT HOME with great results on cd all you need is a mike
    a burner and a clear voice make sure there is no dogs barking in the backgroud

  • allan james saywell (9/10/2005 5:15:00 PM) Post reply

    well mister sheperd the blob is male i will show you mine if you will show me yours instead of doing a e-book on my poetry i am going to sell my poems to
    mister saywell he is going to arrange my poems for me in his own name of course
    for a KINGS RANSOME OF A BUCK A POEM which will increase after my death less tax
    of a buck fifty and death duty of two bucks on the provisor that i rise again
    which is a good deal considering he doesn't realize that i'm immortal and do
    often walk on water

  • Michael Shepherd (9/10/2005 2:36:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Cheri, thanks. There's a similar argument put forward most clearly by an Indian grammarian of around the 10th century CE: that fine languages such as Sanskrit (and the finest usage of other languages) slowly lose their natural power to promote action, over time, as words are used carelessly, inaccurately, profligately. Only by acknowledging every word as connected ultimately to the One Creator, and thus of universal, absolute power and meaning, by writers and speakers, may language be restored to an active force. It is based on the aphorism 'Words mean what they do'...

    It was re-discovered by American philologists and logophiles of the early 20th century and subsequently, such as the guy whose name escapes me right now, who began as fire prevention officer - it's a great story - whose practical observations led him to become a foremost scholar in this area of language as force...

    This may seem a bit heavy to those who love to fling words around in the quest for the freshness of originality, seeking the 'surprising' simile or metaphor (which all too often impresses superficially, but carries no real power to enlighten): but I think this view will ring a bell with many who seek that power in poetry. It does of course imply a very considerable study of the meaning and implications of individual words and grammar - or at the very least, persistent care in writing.

    I was going to post this anyway before you brought this up, but it looked a little pointed in view of my personal opinion about a certain poem... so thanks, and make of it what you will!

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    • Cheri Leigh Rookie - 1st Stage (9/10/2005 4:27:00 PM) Post reply

      So - does it all come down then, to personal responsibility? If we are held accountable for every word we speak/write (for what is literature really but an enduring form of speech?) then it behoves u ... more

    • Lamont Palmer Rookie - 1st Stage (9/10/2005 4:26:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Interesting Michael. However, I do wonder what e.e.cummings, James Joyce, Gertrude Stein, Hart Crane, H.D., George Oppen, Frank O'Hara, Robert Creeley, Charles Olson, John Berryman, William S. Burroug ... more

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