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  • Allan James Saywell (9/25/2005 11:45:00 PM) Post reply

    my poem 'free Rent And extra's' is about the alternative to living and the cost
    of living and why death is much cheaper, i think it is worth a read but you must be positive

  • Allan James Saywell (9/25/2005 10:26:00 PM) Post reply

    what is a communist, a hippy who lives with a lot of people, a capilist with no
    money cant be a russian, please explain

  • Allan James Saywell (9/25/2005 7:01:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    if you read EMILY DICKINSON, 'BECAUSE I COULD NOT STOP FOR DEATH' YOU WILL
    NEVER HAVE TO READ ABOUT DEATH EVER AGAIN, I READ THIS POEM WAY BACK WHEN
    I WAS YOUNG IT COMPLETELY CHANGED MY LIFE, SET ME ON THE PATH OF WRITTEN POETRY
    THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER POET LIKE HER EVER AGAIN MALE OR FEMALE

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  • Michael Shepherd (9/25/2005 6:12:00 AM) Post reply

    ... or for that matter, is there a famous prose passage on Death? Some famous valedictory by Donne, Lancelot Andrewes, whoever?

  • Michael Shepherd (9/25/2005 6:01:00 AM) Post reply

    Googling around while we still can (see the News Headlines on the Homepage these last few days) in response to the recent request for a poem to read at a funeral, it's a surprise to find that there is no really famous poem on death - for all the volumes of world poetry that have themselves lived and died or been embalmed...
    There are outbursts of personal emotion, such as Donne and Dylan Thomas, and a few distinguished ones about death in battle, and a few from the Persian and Sufi tradition, and the anonymous one attributed to various writers (Mary Frye on this site) , 'Do Not Stand At My Grave and Weep'; and one from Frost; no wonder that most settle for the biblical solemn beauty of 'there is a time... and a season...'(Ecclesiastes 3.1) or occasionally that evening prayer for the living about 'the evening comes, the world is hushed, and the fever of life is over...'
    Is it considered beyond poetry? Is it considered too divisive in terms of faith in afterlife or not. I won't suggest a comp.... But I'm suprised. I would have expected something ringing, from Milton for instance, or tender from Yeats, or profound from Rilke. Richard Strauss' 'Last Songs' have set the texts (can't remember who - Holderlin?) memorably of course.
    Have I missed something? Perhaps something inadequately translated as yet, from German, for instance?
    In actuality, I send one of my own as consolation; but I find that a little embarrassing; I'd rather send something by another.

  • Emilie T (9/25/2005 5:45:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Hi

    Herbert Nehrlich is right.Paul England was back.But I passived his recent account.

    Regards

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    • Poetry Hound (9/25/2005 6:25:00 PM) Post reply

      Thanks, I think you and Collette are doing a great job running this site. The forum is much much better than it used to be. Regards.

    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/25/2005 6:45:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      There is nothing that I would like more than have this website run the way it could and should. And if management sees to it that this happens I will be the first to say so. Best wishes H

  • Angela Hansard (9/24/2005 4:02:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    There are alot of people who would not mind them shutting this site down. You people have made this site disgusting. Yes I took my poetry off, and I look from time to time to see what smut you are writing here on the forum. I made a few friends here who were nice and I would miss their works. For the rest of you goodbye would be toooo nice of a word to say to you. May God bless you all and have mercy on your soul.

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/24/2005 6:51:00 PM) Post reply

      Angela, perhaps you could contact Paul England and make a real good Christian effort to save his soul. That would get both of you out of our collective hairs. My aunt Hulda, conservative as she wa ... more

    • Poetry Hound (9/24/2005 4:17:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Angela, if it's so disgusting, why do you keep coming back for a peek? The fact is, the forum is simply a place where people express their opinions. If you can't handle opinions that differ from yours ... more

  • Michael Shepherd (9/24/2005 11:38:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    Oooh you big bullies! Name yourselves! Would you close down the site for the rest of us without consultation? Remember that Paul England (the reformed social worker) only vituperated against those who took up cudgels against him...cool it, guys...

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    • Herbert Nehrlich1 (9/24/2005 6:21:00 PM) Post reply

      Michael this is blatantly untrue.He was not the victim, he was scum and remained scum. Reformed social worker? He claims to be a reformed drug addict. He was described as a police snitch and wor ... more


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  • Allan James Saywell (9/23/2005 6:16:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    is there anyone out there who can translate a couple of my poems into the french language, a couple that a woman would like, you could post them on the forum so she can read them

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    • Michael Shepherd (9/24/2005 5:07:00 AM) Post reply

      There's a translation engine on the web. I guarantee you won't recognise the fractured surrealism of the poems when millions of Frenchmen and women scratch their heads over the results...

  • Alice Berquist (9/23/2005 3:10:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    My mother died recently and I am looking for a poem to read that would be appropropriate at a service. What are your suggestions?

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    • Michael Shepherd (9/23/2005 3:51:00 PM) Post reply

      There are four poems often read these days at funerals. There's Auden's 'Funeral Blues' because it's so b eautifully 'over the top' in classical elegy form that people feel begtter for it; there Alice ... more

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