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  • Rookie Marcy Jarvis (11/21/2005 1:59:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies
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    Probably I am an ordinary middle-class
    believer in individual rights, the word
    'freedom' is simple to me, it doesn't mean
    the freedom of any class in particular.
    Politically naive, with an average
    education (brief moments of clear vision
    are its main nourishment) , I remember
    the blazing appeal of that fire which parches
    the lips of the thirsty crowd and burns
    books and chars the skin of cities. I used to sing
    those songs and I know how great it is
    to run with others; later, by myself,
    with the taste of ashes in my mouth, I heard
    the lie's ironic voice and the choir screaming
    and when I touched my head I could feel
    the arched skull of my country, its hard edge.

    Translated by Renata Gorczynski

    -Adam Zagajewski

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    • Rookie Joseph Daly (11/21/2005 10:30:00 AM) Post reply

      Marcy, I can't say that I am familiar with the writer. What I can say is that we need more who can write like this with so much power. Thank you for posting it, I'll do a search to find out m ... more

    • Rookie Max Reif (11/21/2005 6:54:00 AM) Post reply

      says a lot. (me speak brief)

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/20/2005 10:16:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    that gets rid of the eating and abusing of family now what was the original reason for being thankfull who started the idea in the first place was it being thankful for whipping a bit of english ass in the great war of independance orrrrrrrrrrr

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  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/20/2005 9:36:00 PM) Post reply

    when one of you Americans tell me all about your thanksgiving when i asked so politely, then only then, will Teddy come out of the freezer

  • Rookie - 950 Points Jerry Hughes (11/20/2005 3:56:00 PM) Post reply | Read 6 replies

    Movers, Apostles and Shakers, I wanted to share this very beautiful Rupert Brooke poem with you. It's seldom read these days, a bit dated one might say? Nevertheless, Brooke at his best.


    If I should die, think only this of me:
    That there's some corner of a foreign field
    That is forever England. There shall be
    In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
    A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
    Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
    A body of England's, breathing air,
    Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

    And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
    A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
    Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
    Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
    And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
    In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.

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    • Rookie - 950 Points Ernestine Northover (11/21/2005 3:28:00 PM) Post reply

      Agreed, a fantastic poem. One of my favourites. Love Ernestine

    • Rookie - 950 Points Max Reif (11/21/2005 7:05:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Michael, your comment helps explicate this for me. Reading it, I found the language sensitive, but the patriotic sentiments seemed somewhat atavistic. But I suppose we all have a 'place' that we're gr ... more

    • Rookie - 950 Points Michael Shepherd (11/21/2005 5:06:00 AM) Post reply

      Naive it was, and ironic it turned out to be. The British are a fighting nation, and Brooke is typical of that generation of idealistic young men who in 1914 believed that it was noble to fight, even ... more

    • Rookie - 950 Points Lori Boulard (11/20/2005 8:36:00 PM) Post reply

      Sherrie, good or bad, I think we Yanks n ... more

    • Rookie - 950 Points Michael Shepherd (11/20/2005 6:06:00 PM) Post reply

      For many, Jerry, this is THE English poe ... more

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  • Rookie ***** ********* (11/20/2005 12:52:00 PM) Post reply | Read 4 replies

    Just wanted to say, thank you to all who have read and commented so kindly on my work in the past couple of weeks. I have to go with the flow for a while. Nice meeting you all. Be sure I will follow your work and say hello from time to time.

    All the best you all. Gone fishing! Tai

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  • Rookie Michael Shepherd (11/20/2005 8:45:00 AM) Post reply

    Wow! Algie Swinburne's a hot write in Poemhunter's Poem of the Day, getting right down there in cleavage country...

  • Rookie - 150 Points Poetry Hound (11/20/2005 5:52:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    If you want to see an interesting poem about a father and his daughter, read 'To A Sad Daughter' by Michael Ondaatje.

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    • Rookie - 150 Points Marcy Jarvis (11/20/2005 10:42:00 AM) Post reply

      Did you see the Russel Banks book turned movie, 'The Sweet Hereafter'? This reminds me of the father/daughter relationship of that lawyer and his drug-addicted/HIV infected daughter, Zoey, only this ... more

    • Rookie - 150 Points Michael Shepherd (11/20/2005 10:31:00 AM) Post reply

      I never thought about this until Max brought it up and we mentioned Mary and Todd - the finer the 'family relationship' poem, and the more I want to know the other side's story! Like, why goalies, wha ... more

  • Rookie - 950 Points Jerry Hughes (11/19/2005 11:46:00 PM) Post reply | Read 3 replies

    This has nothing to do with the Big, or Small Yin who, with the greastest respect has overstayed (his) visit to the forum. But to openly thank Herbert Nehrlich, for the advice and help he gave my son Mark, who as some of you know,
    is going through the early onset of Parkinson's.

    The value of genuine friendship is gold nuggets. So I take this opportunity to thank Herbert, most sincerely for his kindness and generosity.

    Dank mein freund

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    • Rookie - 950 Points Ernestine Northover (11/20/2005 12:42:00 PM) Post reply

      Dear Jerry. We are all with you all the way I know, with what you are going through. This is the time when friends are a great support, and I'm sure I can say for all of us on Ph you have our unstinti ... more

    • Rookie - 950 Points Mary Nagy (11/20/2005 11:45:00 AM) Post reply

      I hope your son's doing well Jerry.

    • Rookie - 950 Points Herbert Nehrlich1 (11/20/2005 1:08:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      Jerry, I know nothing, have done nothing, will say nothing other than that I know you would not be like the one as dscribed in my poem 'Miffed'. I think we may have a good drink together some day aft ... more

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/19/2005 7:32:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    has anyone seen a teddy bear who looks like 'BILLY CONNELY, in the company of a beautiful dark haired woman

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    • Rookie Alice Vedral Rivera (11/19/2005 7:46:00 PM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

      I read your poem and it's quite hysterical. And no, I haven't seen your teddy bear with or without a beautiful dark haired woman. I have one of my own - he's about 5'4', dark hair, stocky build, Pue ... more

  • Rookie Allan James Saywell (11/19/2005 4:32:00 PM) Post reply

    poetry is similar to the theory of the big bang

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