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  • Poetry Hound (4/21/2005 9:20:00 AM) Post reply

    Jefferson, you mentioned Billy Collins awhile ago, and I confess that I am hot and cold toward him. On the one hand, he can write a fantastic poem like 'Taking Off Emily Dickinson's Clothes, ' which is terrific even if you don't get the nudge nudge wink wink Dickinson references contained therein. But other times, and there are a lot of them, he writes sort of ha ha jokey poems with little punchlines at the end. For example, 'Another Reason Why I Don't Keep A Gun In The House, ' a clever poem but one that is basically a joke. It's clever in a very safe way. And I feel like he writes a lot of safe, gimmicky, uninspired poems that frankly bore me. Not all poems have to be deep, but even non-deep poems should reveal something new or different in my opinion. Collins is often like a pop poet the way Peter Max is a pop painter. What do you think?

  • Kissteena Zaini (4/21/2005 6:58:00 AM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    i think to write a poem we need to have a sincere heart

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  • Nobody Dude (4/21/2005 12:52:00 AM) Post reply

    I'm new fairly new at this website and it's 'scoring', and so I suppose I want to offer what some of you call a 'challenge'...if one must score a poem less than a 7 or 8, how about writing a comment to suggest improvements (or at least give a reason) ?

  • Nobody Dude (4/21/2005 12:13:00 AM) Post reply

    I am a college student in a class discussing poetry, and I'm also tutoring English at a high school in sessions during which poetry is often the topic of questioning...and so while dealing with form and rhythm I came across a touching, entrancing poem that I'd never read before (like most poems by most authors, in my youthful education) , called 'Ballad of Birmingham' by Dudly Randall, written in 1969 on the bombing of a church in Birmingham, Alabama,1963. This being the first year of my poetic education in college and elsewhere, I found it refreshing to read an American poem that was both easy to understand (without the intense analyzation I've gotten used to) and also quite profound, with a thumping, flowing rhythm like a rap song.

  • Michael Shepherd (4/20/2005 5:02:00 AM) Post reply

    Sorry, me again: I missed out the surname of Tony Harrison, who has been a leading figure of British poetry for years. His most celebrated poem, 'V' which is on this site, has a touching addendum on poemhunter - an apology from one of the glue-sniffing skinheads who defaced the family memorial in the cemetery, against whom Harrison rails in increasingly local dialect...

  • Michael Shepherd (4/19/2005 2:19:00 PM) Post reply

    and of course I forgot two celebrated figures of 2oth century British poetry: Dylan Thomas, symbol of romantic poet drinking himself to death, famouf the poem to his father 'rage, rage against the fading of the light...' and
    whose 'Under Milk Wood' is much performed, though I find it patronising of 'the little people'; and Dame Edith Sitwell (bet you thought her some Nehr-do-Well clone?) who regarded herself as the high priestess of poetry and dressed accordingly...but whose 'Rio Grande' was set to delicious music by Constant Lambert, father of Kit Lambert, founder of The Who and ex-pupil of mine...one of the great figures of self-caricature was Dame Edith.

  • Michael Shepherd (4/19/2005 7:13:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    forgot to say, for the most up-to-the-minute view of the scene, bloodaxebooks is the only publisher who can afford to produce an enormous quantity of current verse (hates formal verse) since they have some form of uni sponsorship.

    And how could I have forgotten DH Lawrence, with 106 poems on this site, I've just discovered, whose 'Snake' is my admired conscious and unconscious model (and his 'Beautiful old age' for personal reasons...) I'd put him contender for the most representative British poet of the 20th century. The British, who don't trust anyone who does more than one thing well, don't pay him much attention. Children trust him as a poet though.

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    • Ramil Gulle (10/6/2005 5:23:00 AM) Post reply

      Hello, I'm new at this site. I stumbled onto it while researching for an essay I'm writing on Dan Schnieder. Hi Michael, I noticed this post of yours because you mentioned Bloodaxe Books. I once h ... more

  • Beste Alpay (4/19/2005 5:55:00 AM) Post reply | Read 1 reply

    Hi! i think in shakespere english 'thee' means 'him, her' etc but does it mean 'yours' too? thanks

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    • Michael Shepherd (4/19/2005 6:20:00 AM) Post reply

      I is I, though 'Methinks' means I think thee means you. Thee usually means God. Thy means your(singular) he, him, she, her, it - as now. we, our - as now ye means you (plural, but sometimes you s ... more

  • Robert Rorabeck (4/19/2005 12:34:00 AM) Post reply

    On Buffie Saint Marie- yeah, Codeine is-liked it much (heard it before) , she has an original way of singing, kind of forgotten folk- it's not that I'm unfamiliar with this period of music, and I've certainly heard her stuff before like Soulful Shade of Blue and some of the other songs just didn't know her name- I liked My Country Tis of Thy, but Neil Diamond's Pocahontas is still my favorite :)

  • Robert Rorabeck (4/18/2005 5:11:00 PM) Post reply | Read 2 replies

    buffie saint marie is (so far) so very good! i'm always looking for good new music- and this sounds like it- so, I do have to say, thanks, PH.

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    • Andy Konisberg (4/18/2005 8:37:00 PM) Post reply

      Leonard Cohen had published a novel and some poetry collections before making music. I believe he's up to about 11 poetry books now.

    • Poetry Hound (4/18/2005 7:29:00 PM) Post reply

      Glad you like it, Robert. Tell me, is the tune 'Codeine' on the collection you bought?

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